On 3/28/10 5:17 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: > Terry R. wrote: > >> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: >>> Terry R. wrote: >>>> I can compose an HTML document (and of course depending on how >>>> extreme the formatting is), and the size won't be much more than >>>> 10%-20% of it's plain text counterpart. And zero errors. >>> >>> You might be able to do that, Terry, (and so could I) but most HTML >>> email clients sure can't. Do you get email from, say, yahoo mail >>> users? A one or two sentence message runs around 13-16KB usually. >>> Here's a small snippet from a four-sentence message I got yesterday >>> via yahoogroups. >>> [snip code] >>> >>> The 302 lines of *styling* were in a second<head> section after all >>> the HTML and content! Oh, and viewing the email in HTML, it is just >>> the four lines in the Georgia font. No other formatting was applied >>> by the sender. >> >> I can't speak for Yahoo mail, and I don't know anyone that uses it >> offhand. > > Really? I'd say about 20-25% of the mail I get comes from yahoo. > >> But I was responding directly to David's comment of, >> >> "If a 1 MB plain-text message were instead composed as an >> HTML-formatted message, the result would be approximately 4.6 MB. >> And it would likely have approximately 21,000 HTML syntax errors." > > Heh, I'm sure that was a misuse of MB .. where he meant KB (which would > be about right, a typical 4 to 1 ratio. The email I cited has 67 words > (357 bytes), and from Yahoo needed 13 Kilobytes of HTML. > > Or he may just have been exaggerating for fun. > >> and I believe he overstated the numbers quite a bit. Maybe if the >> email was sent as PT & HTML using Word, but not just HTML, and not >> the error count either. > > Ewww. Word, as the editor for OE, does a *terrible* job of HTML. >
I was replying to Bill Davidson, who wrote about > Doesn't stop 1MB plain text either. If messages actually got that size, the equivalent message in HTML formatting would be about 4.6 times that. This is based on my examination of 20 actual HTML-formatted messages that I collected from my inbox earlier this year. As it happens, my wife has a friend who regularly sends HTML-formatted messages in the 600 KB to 1.5 MB range (a very few at large as 4 MB). My wife ignores them, leaving them on our ISP's mail server until I use a Web-mail capability to delete them. I was able to identify one of those 20 messages as coming from Yahoo mail. It was NOT from my son, who uses Yahoo mail exclusively. Among the 20 messages I collected, both the largest message and the message with the largest bloat factor were all HTML. None of the bloat can be attributed to there being an ASCII part to those messages. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Go to Mozdev at <http://www.mozdev.org/> for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
