"Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
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> On 3/3/12, Desiree <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Since the recent demise of Scroogle, that I used exclusively for years, I
>> have begun using Startpage.com HTTPS search engine exclusively. I have 
>> had
>> GoDaddy disabled in Certificate Manager for years now on all browsers. I
>
> I just tried disabling GoDaddy as a CA in Seamonkey & it works for me.
>
> How did you disable it?
>
> I did edit / preferences / privacy & security / certificates / manage
> certificates / authorities / select the godaddy root certificate
> authority / edit trust & removed all check marks.  Tried
> https://startpage.com & it worked!?  hrmm..  look again & in addition
> to the godaddy.com, inc there's a the go daddy group, inc.  Removed
> the trust checkmarks for those two, try https://startpage.com & get
> the connection untrusted page; click on i understand the risks / add
> exception / confirm exception.

I looked at this again just now. I am now getting the StarPage engine search 
using StartPage HTTPS engine in the search bar without a bunch of popup 
windows about the GoDaddy cert. BUT StartPage does not give you 100 results 
per page (rather 10 only) so I click on the second page of results and I get 
a series of popup screens. I have to RETELL SM to make a permanent exception 
for StartPage cert. I have already checked the box to make the exception 
permanent but SM has forgotten that when I click on the second page of 
results. After I tell it again to accept the GoDaddy cert permanently (the 
box is already checked), then I get a popup that says the information has to 
be RESENT. So, I tell SM to do that and then finally I get the second page 
of search results. If I want to look at the next 10 results, on the third 
page, I have to go through all the popups that I got on the second page 
AGAIN. That is ridiculous and a bug!

Sigh. I just tried again using StartPage HTTPS engine through the search 
bar, for another subject for searching, and I got that HORRIBLY MISLEADING 
Startpage search results. There was a popup up from SM stating that Secure 
connection FAILED due to the Godaddy cert being UNtrusted. I was not able to 
do anything other than look at the cert or cancel. Yet, I still see https in 
the address bar for the StartPage search results and in the Status bar the 
almost impossible to see dark gray lock appears locked. The surrounding area 
is a lighter gray tannish color and if I click on the lock it says the site 
is secure but that information is in DIRECT CONFLICT with what the popup 
said which was that the SECURE CONNECTION FAILED! This is a nasty bug giving 
conflicting information. Which claim do I believe?
>
>> want my browsers to notify me each time a GoDaddy cert is used and then I
>
> take a look at the CertPatrol addin

I looked at this. I was wrong in that I have not seen this extension before. 
It is interesting but not what I need. I need Padlock extension that I use 
on Fx. I can't clearly see the dark gray padlock that SM uses. I can't see 
if it is open or closed without using a magnifying glass...horrible color 
for what should be a GOLD padlock that is easily seen. Plus, it should be in 
the address bar...NOT on the status bar where even if a gold color it is 
harder to see. So, I use Padlock extension for Fx but it won't install on 
SM. BTW, I have expensive lens implants and have excellent vision. That dark 
gray padlock is simply a horrible color. It should still be gold or green or 
bright neon blue ....some color that is easy to see if it is open or closed 
as it is a small icon.

Further, why in Fx, does the address bar color change for HTTPS but does not 
in SM unless the site has EXTENDED validation? SM does not even have an icon 
left of the address to click on to see the security status.  You have to 
find that almost impossible to see dark gray lock on the status bar and 
click on that. It is almost impossible to tell if the dark gray lock is 
locked or unlocked just by looking at it. VERY VERY BAD IMPLEMENTATION OF 
SECURE PAGES.  On StartPage HTTPS, that lock has a very small background 
that is colored grayish tan. What is that supposed to convey? The address 
bar is blue but it is blue on non secure pages also.

I found this on a search:

"The latest versions of both Seamonkey and Firefox displays both a closed 
padlock icon in the status bar and coloured background in the URL field when 
the page is properly encrypted and secure. They also display a red broken 
padlock in the status bar but no coloured background in the URL field when 
the encrypted page is not secure."
http://philipramsey.blogspot.com/2011/02/httpswwwcchcamyaccountloginaspx-not.html

The padlock should change to red when I get the popup from SM saying the 
secure connection faild? It doesn't turn red. I don't get a colored 
background in the address bar either when the page is properly encrypted and 
secure except for pages that use extended validation and then the address 
bar turns yellow. Otherwise, properly encrypted and secured pages or not the 
address bar is always a blue color that fades to white toward the end of the 
address bar and actually, it should be transparent, but isn't on SM and is 
on Fx.

Further there is NO INFORMATION ANYWHERE, that I can find, on SM that 
informs me that I have made a permanent exception for GoDaddy cert at 
StartPage. Fx informs me of this through a tooltip that appears when I point 
my mouse at the icon on the left of the address.

>
>  [.. snip remainder ..]
>
> Lee 


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