Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Daniel wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Daniel wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
You may not like SeaMonkey's handling of cookies, but I have
described it accurately. I make no claim that SM's handling is the
same as any other program's handling, since I don't know what other
programs do.
And if you don't want to be prompted, do as I said and update your
preference.
Yes, Paul, you are correct, I can set it as you described and then I
would just be accepting every cookie thrown at me. This is what I do
not want to happen!!
No. Setting SM not to ask is not the same as setting it to accept all
cookies. You can set it to reject all cookies without prompting, or you
can set it to accept session cookies only without prompting, or you can
set it it accept all cookies without prompting, etc. Look at the rest of
the settings at Edit | Preferences | Cookies.
I personally use a complex mixture -- I have a general policy set at the
preference pane cited above, and I also have specific websites listed in
the Cookie Manager for whom my policy is different from that default.
And I have SM set not to prompt me, so in the case of listed sites, it
silently follows their exceptional policies, but in the case of unlisted
sites, it silently follows the default policy. I don't get nagged, but I
don't accept all cookies, either.
You can set whatever policy you like. But turning the nags on or off has
nothing to do with that policy. Turning them on offers you an easier way
to change the policy for a particular site, but it can be quite a bother
if you've already set a policy for a site and SM keeps asking "are you
sure?"
Just as a by-the-by, are cookies stored in an individual file who's
properties I may have set (years ago, Mozilla Suite, maybe!!) Read
Only?? Or are cookies part of some super-file??
(Note:- Just looked where my profile is and found cookies.sqlite
(last modified 29/04/2013) and its properties are *not* set to Read
Only!!)
I suppose that's good, if you sometimes want to accept cookies. Making
the file read-only would mean no site could ever set or modify a cookie.
If you never want to accept any cookies, and you don't trust SeaMonkey
to follow orders, you could set the file read-only to prevent it from
disobeying. That would be a belt-and-suspenders approach.
Paul, thank you for sticking with me as I get this sorted!!
On Edit->Preferences->Privacy & Security->Cookies, under "Cookie
Acceptance Policy", I have "Allow all Cookies" selected and under
"Cookie Retention Policy", I have "Ask for each cookie" selected but
"except for session cookies" de-selected.
From there, clicking on "Cookie Manager", and setting it to show "All
data types", I can see that various sites have cookies listed, and/or
Permissions in place, and/or Preferences named and/or Passwords in place
e.g. for *yahoo.com*, I have 10 cookies set and 14 Permissions set, for
*wikipedia.org*, I have 1 cookie, 1 Permissions set and 2 Preferences in
place, *winzip.com* just has 1 Permissions set.
For *wikia.com, the site that this thread started with, I have zero
cookies set, 4 Permissions (for sub-sites at wikia.com) set to block
Cookies and zero Preferences and zero Passwords. Still, when I go to
wikia.com, I'm asked if I want to set a cookie and set the don't ask
marker, I still asked if I want to set several other cookies!
Seems wrong to me!
Since you've selected "Ask for each cookie," SM will ask each time a
site wants to set a cookie, even a site that you've banned (because the
site still makes the request).
Yes, "Ask for each cookie"
Then tick "Do same for each cookie"
Then select "Deny" or "Block", whatever.
So, somehow, I want it to never ask me what to do, but for SM to *know*,
somehow, that I want to deny the setting of any cookie!
Seems impossible!!
Since you have not selected "except for session cookies," it will treat
session cookies exactly the same way -- it will ask each time.
Yes, just it cannot do what I want for *any* cookie ... Deny .... Deny
....Deny!
If you look at wikia.com on the Permissions tab in the Cookie manager,
you'll see four options for each subdomain you've listed:
[ ] Use Default (o) Allow (o) Allow for session (•) Block
There isn't any option "block all cookies and don't ask." Sorry. Between
this pane and the preference pane mentioned above, I don't see any way
to accomplish that.
That's unfortunate!!
Thanks for trying!
--
Daniel
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