On 01/08/2013 05:44, Trane Francks wrote:
> It is with great disappointment that I see the demise of Growl support 
> in SeaMonkey 2.19. In looking for the reasoning behind this, the answer 
> was apparently that "Notification Centre is the way forward". This would 
> be grand except for the fact that OS X Snow Leopard and Lion both do not 
> *have* Notification Centre.
> 
> The current fallback to XUL notifications is marginally useful, but only 
> when I'm working on the same virtual desktop on which SeaMonkey resides. 
> When I'm working on a different desktop and mail comes in, the XUL 
> notification is not visible and I'm left to go look through half-a-dozen 
> inboxes to try and decipher which account got the new mail.
> 
> So, uh, who exactly thought this was moving forward? For those of us who 
> are not using Mountain Lion or Mavericks, this presents a fairly massive 
> step backwards in functionality. My early-2008 MacBook4,1 only goes as 
> far as Lion due to its 32-bit EFI. Unless I roll back to SeaMonkey 
> 2.17.1 and freeze my updates there -- not the most intelligent plan from 
> a security perspective -- I'm stuck with a SeaMonkey that now feels more 
> alien to the OS than it has in years.
> 
> Not happy.
> 
> trane

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14:48   RattyAway       wsm: so first they removed growl support because they
wanted to use the OSX notification centre. Then they disabled NC support
because it wasn't ready. So now OSX users aren't going to get any
notifications at all?
14:49   RattyAway       o.O
14:49   wsm     proof that truth is stranger than fiction? :)
14:52   wsm     RattyAway: see also bug 715799
14:52   firebot Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=715799
nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unified new mail notification implementation
14:52   RattyAway       hrm
14:52   RattyAway       I wish people would make up their minds.
14:55   wsm     RattyAway: can they be unified?
14:56   * wsm unintended pun
14:56   bwinton XUL Notifications for all!
14:56   wsm     and then we have the clutter of http://tinyurl.com/bfjpkeb
14:57   irving  wasn't there another follow up bug where we put Growl back?
14:57   wsm     irving: i thought so (doesn't run Mac)
14:58   wsm     in 18 or 19 iirc
14:59   RattyAway       Bug 806254
14:59   firebot Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=806254
nor, --, Thunderbird 18.0, Nomis101, RESO FIXED, Add back Growl support
for TB / SM Aurora
15:00   RattyAway       Bug 806254
15:00   RattyAway       oops
15:01   RattyAway       Bug 827979
15:01   firebot Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=827979
nor, --, ---, joshmoz, NEW, add Growl support back for Firefox 19 (Beta)
and Firefox 20 (Aurora)
15:01   RattyAway       Bug 805837
15:01   firebot Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=805837
nor, --, ---, joshmoz, RESO FIXED, add Growl support back for Firefox 18
(Aurora)
15:02   jcranmer|away   rule #1 of rewriting APIs:
15:02   RattyAway       wsm: I had a look at the Growl Framework massively
bloated and overkill
15:03   jcranmer|away   deprecate the old API when the new API is shipped
and released
15:03   jcranmer|away   then remove it a version or two later

Phil
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