On 7/8/14 8:33 PM +0900, Trane Francks wrote:
On 7/8/14 1:15 PM +0900, Hartmut Figge wrote:
Trane Francks:
On 7/8/14 12:53 PM +0900, Hartmut Figge wrote:
Trane Francks:
My outbound mail all utilizes the X-Mailer header. It's worth noting
that neither 'User-Agent" or "X-Mailer" are specified in RFC 5322. As
such, it's perhaps less than kind to consider SM to be deteriorated when
the inclusion of either header is purely optional and in no way
addresses any particular RFC. At least, as far as I can recall.
Then why show the User-Agent in the header pane at all? ;)
Because it's informational, obviously.
And that is also true for other notations of a user agent, like X-Mailer.
Formerly at least X-Mailer was handled, maybe more notations also. I
didn't notice until today what had happened, because of Mnenhy.
X-Mailer is still there, so I don't know what you mean by formerly
handled.
It is in the header, but it is not shown in the header pane of SM. In
the Suite it was shown as User-Agent.
For some incredibly bizarre reason, SeaMonkey is translating User-Agent
to X-Mailer. If you look at the header information in the preview pane,
look for X-Mailer. If you look at the source, then User-Agent is it. The
information isn't missing, per se, but the tag itself is being
misrepresented. It's the same information being given a different name
depending on the view context.
and, basically, the user agent is meaningless as long as the
structure of the received mail adheres to RFCs.
The UA gives valuable information for answering questions about
problems. Another example of deterioration? The missing build date in
the UA. For Trunk it is essential. The missing language in the UA would
be nice to have back.
Hartmut
It's being given a different name for some reason that I cannot fathom.
As for the missing build date, feel free to submit a bug. FWIW, the
build date has been missing since at least Netscape 7.1 (Mozilla 1.4),
if not earlier. From a message I posted in December 2004: Mozilla/5.0
(X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1. And
later from Mozilla 1.7.7 in 2005: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686;
en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050420
A bit of further testing shows that some mail servers, e.g., Exchange
Server 2003, will actually strip the User-Agent information from the
message headers. SeaMonkey also misrepresents X-Mailer in the preview
pane headers for the X-MimeOLE string as seen in the message source.
Shame on Exchange for stripping header information. Shame on SeaMonkey
for being cavalier with the display context. That's just odd behaviour.
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