Desiree wrote: > On 7/20/2016 5:54 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote: >> Desiree wrote: >>> On 7/18/2016 10:38 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>>> Ray_Net wrote: >>>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 19/07/2016 00:59: >>>>>> Ray_Net wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> So the best default User agent string could be: >>>>>>> : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38 >>>>>>> same as Firefox/41.0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> then it will be recognized as FF by the bad sniffing method and >>>>>>> recognized as SM by everybody. >>>>>> >>>>>> You're thinking like a human being, silly! >>>>>> >>>>>> Some sniffers reject a UA string that contains "SeaMonkey" even if it >>>>>> also contains "Firefox." That's why the solution in this thread worked >>>>>> -- because Chase's sniffer is that stupid. You have to pretend to be >>>>>> Firefox AND pretend not to be SeaMonkey. >>>>>> >>>>> I just thinked that the sniffer will only use the last "word" which is >>>>> in this case "Firefox/41.0" instead of in the normal UAstring the last >>>>> "word" is "SeaMonkey/2.38" >>>>> >>>>> So could be better to have the default string this: >>>>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38 same >>>>> as Firefox/41.0 >>>>> instead of this: >>>>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 >>>>> SeaMonkey/2.38 >>>>> >>>>> Is my idea a bad idea ? >>>> >>>> If it works, it's good; if it doesn't, it's bad. Only a Chase customer >>>> can tell us. I can't log in because I don't bank with them. My bank is >>>> fine with SeaMonkey. >>>> >>> For me, as a Chase customer, SeaMonkey cannot be in the string at all. I >>> have >>> Windows 8.0 Pro and am using User Agent Switcher extension and chose this >>> string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 >>> Firefox/40.0. It works fine. >> >> I logged into my Chase account (with Firefox, of course) and used their >> Secure >> Message center to send the following message. They say they will be back to >> me >> in one business day. I am looking forward to what they say. Probably "We no >> longer support Netscape" :-) >> >> Why Won’t Chase Accept Seamonkey as a Legitimate Browser? >> >> The original and most popular internet web browser in the early 1990’s was >> Netscape Navigator. When the ability to send and receive emails was added to >> the >> Netscape Navigator’s capabilities, the browser’s name was changed to >> Netscape >> Communicator. Netscape Communicator was eventually taken over by the Mozilla >> Foundation where in addition to Netscape Communicator, Mozilla produced a >> browser only without email capability and called it Firefox. At that time >> Netscape Communicator was renamed Seamonkey. In essence, Seamonkey is a >> direct >> descendant of the original Netscape browser. It continues to be maintained >> by >> Mozilla and the browser portion of Seamonkey works the same way as FireFox. >> >> The problem is that when the Chase web software looks at the browser being >> used >> as defined by the User Agent string shown below, it accepts the User Agent >> string from Firefox but rejects the User Agent string from Seamonkey. The >> only >> difference between the two User Agent strings is that the one from Seamonkey >> adds “Seamonkey/2.40†at the end. Other than that, they are both the >> same. User >> Agent strings will also vary depending on the operating system used by the >> computer. However, the common part of the User Agent string, >> “Gecko/20100101†is >> always present no matter what operating system is being used. >> >> I hope that the people who run your website will once again accept the users >> of >> the descendant of the original web browser now called Seamonkey as do the >> other >> major financial institutions such as American Express, Wells Fargo, Charles >> Schwab, etc, etc >> >> User Agent String Samples for Firefox and Seamonkey >> >> Firefox >> >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 >> >> Seamonkey >> >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 >> SeaMonkey/2.40 >> >> > Did you send all that ERRONEOUS information about Netscape becoming SeaMonkey > to > Chase? I hope not although Chase might not know any better than you do the > history of Netscape, Mozilla Browser, buttmonkey or "politically correct" > SeaMonkey. You need to educate yourself. Start with my reply to > mozilla.general newsgroup thread "Is the Mozilla Era Over?"
I'm not writing for nerds but instead am trying to keep it brief for the Chase CTO. How about if I use the following from Wikipedia? "SeaMonkey is a free and open-source Internet suite. It is the continuation of the former Mozilla Application Suite, based on the same source code, which itself grew out of Netscape Communicator and formed the base of Netscape 6 and Netscape 7." _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
