WaltS48 wrote:
On 8/25/17 12:55 PM, null wrote:
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 2017-08-22 7:17 AM, null wrote:
There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of
Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player.
HTML5 is not a media player. It's a language used for writing
webpages. The new HTML standard (number 5) allows browsers to play
video without the need for a third-party plugin, like Flash, similar
to how you don't need a plugin to view images. For more info, this
video does a good job explaining it
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsXEVQRaTX8>.
Since that video was published, Adobe has announced plans to kill
Flash.
As others have pointed out, the reason why you're having trouble
with HTML5 videos is because modern web browsers require something
later than Windows XP for HTML5 videos.
Glad you said that HTML5 is not a media player. I never thought there
really was an HTML5 player. I only cited it in my original post
because people keep using the term as if there was!
There are many video players that one can install on the HD, but
there is nothing called the HTML Player. Wish Youtube and various
people who write about these things would stop talking as though
there was!!
For instance, just found a Youtube video that I can't play, says my
browser (SM) does not recognize any of the video formats available.
When I click on the link proved in the message to get info about
HTML5 video, I get a Youtube help page that says "You can request
that the HTML5 player be used if your browser doesn't use it by
default" That nonsensical statements implies 1) that something called
the HTML Player exists - it doesn't - and 2) fails to explain exactly
how I can "request" that the HTML player be used! Further down, there
is another reference to "The HTML5 player." These statements
referring to "the HTML player" are to me completely meaningless - I
have no idea what they are supposed to mean - yet they are put there
by Youtube as if what is said is quite clear. The page also says that
my SM browser does support HTMLVideoElement, Media Source Extensions,
and MSE & WebM VP9, but does not support H.264 or MSE & H.264. So
what, exactly, are the implications of this information? I don't
know, and Youtube doesn't say.
Are you blocking JavaScript?
<http://videojs.com/>
<http://html5video.org/wiki/HTML5_Video_Player_Comparison>
I'm not blocking JavaScript. However, as a test, I have tried turning it
off in the SM config, but it makes no practical difference to the video
problem.
Thanks for the above links, the contents of which have finally thrown
some light on what people REALLY mean when they talk about the "HTML5
video player", but somehow can't seem to say it clearly. For instance,
the videojs site says that
"Video.js is an open source library for working with video on the web,
also known as an *HTML video player."
*What, exactly, is this ungrammatical and ambiguous sentence actually
trying to tell me? Grammatically, one possibility is that working with
video on the web is also known as an HTML video player, but that makes
no semantic sense at all. Other possible but only slightly more
meaningful interpretations come to mind, but I won't waste trying trying
to explicate those.
Anyway, thanks to the stuff on your links, I now get the general idea
that "an HTML5. video player" refers to software that resides on _the
server_, and uses HTML5 rather than flash or webM to do . . . well . . .
whatever it does that results in my browser getting a data feed that it
can display on my screen as a video.
I've noticed that my problem playing some Youtube videos seems to
frequently arise with current affairs videos. Just now went to Youtube
and found the following, which will not play and gives the error message
discussed earlier in this thread. And with JavaScript turned off, I
don't even get the error message, just a blank, black window.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfImP6jr28g
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