Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
You can try this one:
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/175591-enable-mp4-h264-aac-html5-video-in-firefox-on-windows-xp-without-flash/
Thanks for that. there is a download link there for the Adobe thingy
they talk about, got it, scanned it, unzpped it, put it in a folder as
they instruct, didn't make any difference at that point, but perhaps
tomorrow I will make the about:config changes they list and see what
happens.
Probably the only way to get it working under XP. 2.48 is Fx 51
The POS2009 hack will give you current updates for your system till
2019 but does nothing for video decoding.
You can get a decent older Thinkpad running Windows 7 like a champ for
around $70. Same for other brands. Older office PCs are probably less.
While you can still get 10 for free from Microsoft but I wouldn't
recommend it. Not sure what to do after 2020 myself. Maybe go to Linux.
Yeah, I guess I'll have to upgrade sooner or later, although it will
have to be a PC with a full size keyboard and a mouse - just can't abide
laptops, it would drive me nuts no matter how cheap. W10 may still be
free from MS, but only if you do the download using W7 or higher. I
don't recall there ever being any sort of free download or upgrade for
XP, and if there was I imagine it's long gone. Apart from the pesky
cost, the problem with upgrading the hardware and going to W10 is that
there are many unknowns. Apart from the fact that I know XP inside out
and, like a lot of others have said, find the GUI and general way it
runs very much to my liking, I suspect that a huge number of programmes
I currently use may not run properly on W10, if they will run at all,
and I would find that out the hard way. I do know what you refer to with
the POS 2009 hack, but I think that would be fraught with all sorts of
possible complications, and as you say it's on the way out, anyway.
FRG
null wrote:
WaltS48 wrote:
On 8/25/17 12:55 PM, null wrote:
Chris Ilias wrote:
On 2017-08-22 7:17 AM, null wrote:
There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents
of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5
player.
HTML5 is not a media player. It's a language used for writing
webpages. The new HTML standard (number 5) allows browsers to play
video without the need for a third-party plugin, like Flash,
similar to how you don't need a plugin to view images. For more
info, this video does a good job explaining it
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsXEVQRaTX8>.
Since that video was published, Adobe has announced plans to kill
Flash.
As others have pointed out, the reason why you're having trouble
with HTML5 videos is because modern web browsers require something
later than Windows XP for HTML5 videos.
Glad you said that HTML5 is not a media player. I never thought
there really was an HTML5 player. I only cited it in my original
post because people keep using the term as if there was!
There are many video players that one can install on the HD, but
there is nothing called the HTML Player. Wish Youtube and various
people who write about these things would stop talking as though
there was!!
For instance, just found a Youtube video that I can't play, says my
browser (SM) does not recognize any of the video formats available.
When I click on the link proved in the message to get info about
HTML5 video, I get a Youtube help page that says "You can request
that the HTML5 player be used if your browser doesn't use it by
default" That nonsensical statements implies 1) that something
called the HTML Player exists - it doesn't - and 2) fails to
explain exactly how I can "request" that the HTML player be used!
Further down, there is another reference to "The HTML5 player."
These statements referring to "the HTML player" are to me
completely meaningless - I have no idea what they are supposed to
mean - yet they are put there by Youtube as if what is said is
quite clear. The page also says that my SM browser does support
HTMLVideoElement, Media Source Extensions, and MSE & WebM VP9, but
does not support H.264 or MSE & H.264. So what, exactly, are the
implications of this information? I don't know, and Youtube doesn't
say.
Are you blocking JavaScript?
<http://videojs.com/>
<http://html5video.org/wiki/HTML5_Video_Player_Comparison>
I'm not blocking JavaScript. However, as a test, I have tried turning
it off in the SM config, but it makes no practical difference to the
video problem.
Thanks for the above links, the contents of which have finally thrown
some light on what people REALLY mean when they talk about the "HTML5
video player", but somehow can't seem to say it clearly. For
instance, the videojs site says that
"Video.js is an open source library for working with video on the
web, also known as an *HTML video player."
*What, exactly, is this ungrammatical and ambiguous sentence actually
trying to tell me? Grammatically, one possibility is that working
with video on the web is also known as an HTML video player, but that
makes no semantic sense at all. Other possible but only slightly more
meaningful interpretations come to mind, but I won't waste trying
trying to explicate those.
Anyway, thanks to the stuff on your links, I now get the general idea
that "an HTML5. video player" refers to software that resides on _the
server_, and uses HTML5 rather than flash or webM to do . . . well .
. . whatever it does that results in my browser getting a data feed
that it can display on my screen as a video.
I've noticed that my problem playing some Youtube videos seems to
frequently arise with current affairs videos. Just now went to
Youtube and found the following, which will not play and gives the
error message discussed earlier in this thread. And with JavaScript
turned off, I don't even get the error message, just a blank, black
window.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfImP6jr28g
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