DoctorBill wrote on 02-01-18 15:44:
Daniel wrote:
DoctorBill wrote:
DoctorBill wrote:
I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works fine.

BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.    Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM. Clunky. Supposed to get
worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures (photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be embedded in
the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.....

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone recommend others ?

DoctorBill


OMG !

How can ANYONE outside of your group of people know what the Heck you
are talking about !?

You folks argue about what I am supposed to do !
Who do I follow ?
What I see is Thunderbird info - not SeaMonkey Info !

You might be right here, DoctorBill, so confusion is possible from people using different programs .... but, just remember, they are all trying to do their best for you. ;-)

I get instructions that tell me half or less what to do.....I am not knowledgeable in all this technical jargon you fellow toss around.

Much like someone with a PhD in BioChemestry might throw some jargon around ... in some places. ;-)

Is SeaMonkey the same as Thunderbird or FireFox ?
Much of this "Information" is about Thunderbird !
Paul asked - do I use "...webmail or POP/IMAP gmail" ?    No Idea what he means ?

DoctorBill, as I understand it, webmail is when you use a BROWSER to go to an e-mail site, gmail.com/yahoomail.com/whatever, to manage your e-mail in and out. The mail is stored on their harddrives not yours.

If you have a IMAP mail account, that means you use a e-mail application such as Thunderbird or SeaMonkey Mail & News screen to manipulate your e-mails on your ISP's server.

If you have a POP3 e-mail account, when you connect to your ISP to get your e-mail, the e-mails are downloaded onto your hard drive where they live or die!!

I am sorry to be so ignorant, but if Mozilla wants people to use their product, it
must be explained as if everyone is a child and/or a moron.....

Mozilla doesn't produce SeaMonkey, Mozilla used to produce Thunderbird but may or mayn't now. SeaMonkey is produced by the SeaMonkey Consortium or some such, a group of volunteers (some of whom may work, in a paid capacity, for Mozilla), but they do/did get support from Mozilla.

I have a PhD in Biochemistry from UC Davis and I still cannot follow this stuff !

Yeap!! I can relate to that!! I taught Electronics and Computer programming (8085/Z80/6809) back in the mid-nineties!! Know bugger all about it now-a-days!!


Thank you Daniel for that message !

I guess what I using with SeaMonkey is pop3 mail - right ?

My ISP is Frontier, then.....right ?

The Frontier site said that it uses some AOL type of coding (?) which is special to Frontier, but even that is going to be dumped in 2018....all of which is Martian to me.

I understand about this "outgoing" business, but do not understand HOW to or WHAT to
put WHERE !

Under "Outgoing Server (smtp) Settings", it says I can add, edit, select (doesn't say HOW) what I can use.   I also have two gmail accounts, the one Frontier account and this News Group. If I want to use one of the Gmail accounts to send a message, the error says the mail.Frontier.com smtp setting is wrong.  Is that because it is the default ? I tried setting the gmail outgoing as default, but that also gives an error.

Tried one of the gmail outgoing settings given by someone here, but got the same error
message.

There are so many people on this thread, some arguing, some telling me I should do what THEY say, some implying I am dumb......this is like a Chinese Fire Drill !

I think perhaps it is too far above my head to try anymore.  All I wanted to do is use the
SeaMonkey E-Mail stuff like before with my old ISP (which worked well).
Ever since Frontier came online, it has been chaos.


To be simple You must create a mail account to access the frontiet.com mailbox with the following:
FOR SEAMONKEY:
Add account with:
- Your name
- Your Frontier username (your email address)
- Your Frontier password
THEN
Position the Incoming mail server:(POP3)  pop3.frontier.com
with SSL and Port 995
Position the Outgoing mail server ( SMTP): smtp.frontier.com
with SSL and Port 465





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