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Michael R. Stork wrote: | David Masover wrote: | |>> an excuse to tell them how ignorant they are for "not doing it your way" |>> |> I was suggesting my way. I wasn't implying that anyone was stupid. |> | Perhaps it wasn't you that made the first comment, but the first person | who started talking about Linux in this thread did so by implying that | doing anything other then installing Linux was stupid and a waste of | time. If that wasn't you, then you just jumped on the Linux rant after | that.
Go back and re-read that, then. It was me, and this will be about the fourth time I've said that I never implied any such thing, and intended my comment to be taken as a suggestion. Think. If I really meant that "doing anything other than installing Linux was stupid and a waste of time", then why did I then go on to suggest other things to do to help better secure Windows?
|>> niche that's not going to be supported by the mainstream. And, if it |>> |> |> |> I suspect that this niche would include much of freenet. If I don't even |> trust my ISP, how am I supposed to trust Microsoft? |> | I NEVER said I trusted Microsoft ! I don't even really like Microsoft,
You are required to trust Microsoft in order to run Windows. If you don't believe me, go read the EULA -- particularly the ones on the most recent service packs.
| and I agree that Windows isn't a great OS. What I disagree with is your | assertion that it's possible to do all the same things with Linux as you | can with Windows. Yes, there is more software being produced now that | will run under Linux, but there's no where near the same variety.
No, there's not. But there is enough for most people, I think. A lot of Windows software works under Wine (on Linux) -- much of it out-of-the-box.
They are different. If I want to run the latest games with no wait at all, or some very old accounting software, I run Windows. If I want to code, and email, | |>> ever does take off, and surplant Windows as the standard, then the |>> hackers will just start writing their malicious code to infect it, and |>> |> |> |> It's already got something like 25-30% of the web server market. Don't |> [...] | And ? You're just helping make my point. 25-30% of a small portion of
Don't see how. I'd expect most permanent Freenet nodes to be set up for the purpose of publishing a Freesite, and therefore, be "servers" in the same way that web servers are.
For that matter, your point is that Linux is secure because it's a niche market. Well, it happens to be a niche of boxes that many people would _love_ to crack into, I'm sure.
| think that using any oppurtunity to try to push it is just plain stupid.
Well, sure. If someone walked up to me and said "Nice day, isn't it?" and I said "It'd be nicer on Linux", then that would be retarted. If someone walks up to me and asks what software for Windows would best send their top-secret corporate memos between executives only, I'd suggest Linux. I'd also suggest Thunderbird and Enigmail for Windows, in case they don't like the Linux idea.
| Windows. When they ask for help configuring a piece of software, so that | Freenet works ON THIER SYSTEM, telling them to go out and buy another | system to install Linux on, or that they should wipe their existing OS | and run Linux, just so that they can run a Freenet node is moronic. If
I didn't suggest any such thing. In fact, the suggestion to install Linux (possibly dual-boot, possibly Knoppix) was one of several suggestions -- the others being to put a Linux firewall in the way and to run Firefox.
| you want to expand Freenet, the way to do it is not by making it seem | like the only way to do so is on a Linux system.
Read above. Sorry I made it _seem_ like I was saying something I obviously didn't.
| isn't all that tough to do. What is hard to do is is to have a | reasonable discussion when the other person chops out the majority of | your post, and then responds to a small snippet as if that were it's
Do you really feel like I lose the gist of your reply by doing this? If so, you're free (as is anyone) to go in the archives (or even your own trash folder) and find your reply.
If you want, I will start quoting the entire reply each time. Watch bandwidth usage skyrocket. (In case of a misunderstanding, I don't actually think that's what you want, and I understand what you meant.)
| entirety. (Yes, I snipped a bunch from this last post, cheifly the more | insulting crap.)
And how do you define "insulting crap"? Why are you more qualified than me to make that decision?
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