On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:14 AM,  <urza9...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Freenet is exactly what was being discussed. He wasn't looking for
> support for illegal activities, he was looking for support for
> Freenet, which he happened to be using in a way that in certain
> countries is illegal. So should we refuse support to anyone asking for
> help with freenet if their use of it happens to be illegal in, say,
> China?
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Evan Daniel <eva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:58 AM, freenet <free...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2009, at 17:16:24 +0100, bimbek <bimbek...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh, with all the respect Matthew Toseland, you did not need to ban
>>>> the poor
>>>> guy.
>>>>
>>>> I hope that one day you will not ban all of us just because some US
>>>> court
>>>> would say that using freenet is illegal...
>>>
>>> Did anyone catch the irony that the Freenet Project - that is
>>> dedicated to overcoming censorship and promoting absolute free speech
>>> for all worldwide - has just banned, censored if you will, someone
>>> from a simple support e-mail list?
>>>
>>> But from the Freenet web site at http://freenetproject.org/philosophy.html
>>> :
>>>
>>> "You cannot guarantee freedom of speech and enforce copyright law. It
>>> is for this reason that Freenet, a system designed to protect Freedom
>>> of Speech, must prevent enforcement of copyright."
>>
>> Freenet must operate under the laws of both the US and the UK.  What's
>> surprising, exactly?
>>
>> If you want support for illegal activities, don't look for it on
>> moderated, non-anonymous forums like this email list!  How surprising
>> is that?  Seriously, if you want to discuss illegal activities,
>> shouldn't you be using something like, I don't know, Freenet?

What part of this is confusing?  Freenet must operate according to the
laws of the US and UK.  Chinese law has as little to do with it as
French law.  The best legal advice we have says not to offer support
to people known to be engaged in piracy.  Not "don't support piracy"
-- don't offer support to people engaged in it!  That means banning
people who admit to it.

If you want support for your illegal activities, get it on Freenet or
some other secure, anonymous forum.  This email list is not such a
forum!  Whether that lines up with how you wish the world worked or
not is completely irrelevant.

Evan Daniel
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