On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Matthew Toseland <t...@amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote: >On Tuesday 15 Feb 2011 19:14:08 Dave U. Random wrote: >> Seen on 0.5 > >People still use 0.5? I wonder if anyone has volunteered to provide securit= >y support...
Yes. i estimate there are well over 1,000 nodes with more being added daily >> > >> >Toad is still in the same mood. The network has been screwed for months >> >and gets worse each update - currently about 3 per day. =20 > >This is partially true. However there has been significant progress on anno= >uncement and UOM towards the end of last week. The UOM may help to bring ba= >ck a significant proportion of the lost nodes, which I believe to be old fo= >rgotten nodes with update enabled but for which it was failing due to bugs = >introduced around the time of the new packet format changes. I've watched this list since 0.7 was forked and the rate of new things breaking the network has never ceased to amaze me. How can 0.7 be considered even remotely stable? excess of 50 builds since 1 jan 2011 is NOT stable by any stretch of imagination. is a sign something is seriously flawed from the start. 0.7 should not have been made default freenet download. should have been a separate 'testing' network so new users would not be exposed to the continual breakage and multiple updates per week, sometimes multiple updates per day. >> >Every non-pedo >> >board on 0.7.5 has been DOS-ed out of commission, or is the target of a >> >spam bot. There is currently no content available outside of cp. Three >> >thousand nodes have been shut down in recent weeks. > >I do not care about Frost. Frost is broken by design, and is therefore depr= >ecated, period. Use FMS or Freetalk. If you don't like the negative trust i= >ssues with FMS and Freetalk, write a patch to only do positive trust. IMHO = >it would be fairly easy. i don't care that you don't care about frost. FMS is also broken by design with capchas 99.99% unreadable by humans. Freetalk may be useful if someone ports it to 0.5 but i can't say for sure because i have never seen it. i quit using 0.7 two years ago in one of many storms of total unusability. >Whoever is doing the DoS probably leaves out the pedo boards on purpose... >>=20 no doubt >> Is this even remotely true? Has 0.7.5 been losing large numbers of nodes? > >Have a look at the graphs. >>=20 sure, publish them where i can see them >> If so, I'm not surprised at that, only that it's taken this long. > >No, it has nothing to do with Frost suckage. It was a specific event around= > December/January that we are recovering from. (Before that we saw slow gro= >wth). It was probably due to bugs and performance problems when introducing= > new disruptive code - specifically the new packet format code, which was n= >ecessary due to both polling issues and new load management issues, but whi= >ch we have still not fully sorted out. 0.7 has an amazing number of these 'events' > >http://127.0.0.1:8888/freenet:USK@gjw6StjZOZ4OAG-pqOxIp5Nk11udQZOrozD4jld42= >Ac,BYyqgAtc9p0JGbJ~18XU6mtO9ChnBZdf~ttCn48FV7s,AQACAAE/graphs/1035/ > >http://127.0.0.1:8888/freenet:USK@85gZTCiQO9IEPDAGvjktO9d-ZMS1lIABR6JB85m4e= >ns,VGDItiCVzCcWAay51faZzcIfAepzeHpzXYvChlueWYE,AQACAAE/stats/1347/ sorry those URI's are broken. oh wait, you didn't actually insert them to 0.5, you want me to re-install 0.7 to look at your pictures. no thanks, been there, done that. i'm still sore from the last abuse i got from 0.7. . _______________________________________________ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
