Scott,

I certainly HAVE NOT forgotten this, but remember
that we ( the non-core-devs ) sit here for as many
hours and read, test, tweak, test, test, and
research ourselvs.  Your work and dedication has
not gone unrecognized (at leaset by me, I ALWAY
give credit where credit is due).  This is no
eacuse for flaming on lists though, we're all in
this together "right"?  After all, without all of
"us" (the community) pfS would NOT be as far along
as it is.  I just get miffed when I make a VALID
suggestion or post a VALID question and get either
a snide remark or a flame (and like I said ... my
appologies for noise and the *NIX 2 BSD jab).

Just like you Scott, Bill, Chris etc, etc .... I
just want and hope for the supper, stable,
cost-effective product too.  I have been here
along-side you all for many months and will
continue to support/promote pfS and give the qudos
to the dev team and the community for the
exceptional efforts put forth to make pfS what it
is today.

OK, done rambling on now ... said my peace to Bill
and ready to get the logging issues and package
question I posted again yesterday
resolved/answered and move forward.

Thanks ALL for your GREAT work (devs, community,
Manuel).

Regards,
--
David L. Strout
Engineering Systems Plus, LLC

----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] IPSec enhancements
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Date: 01-26-2006 3:15 pm


> On 1/26/06, David Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > Then my question to you is this .... why
haven't
> > they been implemented?
> 
> Because nobody has submitted patches?
> 
> > You've / we've all spent a lot of time on the
> > product to make it ( and I quote) a business
class
> > product which "provides all the important
features
> > of commercial firewall boxes" (BTW, it IS a
great
> > product, just be open to suggestions for
> > improvments).  I think not, as most of the
> > commercial products out there, [Cisco,
NetScreen,
> > CheckPoint] to name a few, support most if not
all
> > of the features I mentioned below, before
getting
> > flamed as a FUD writer (look in the mirror
before
> > pitching stones, and do so real research on
> > something other than BSD).  I'm not sure what
FUD
> > means, but I can make an educated guess, and
I'm
> > not sure that there needs to be this level of
> > inappropriate and offensive
> > communications/responses, especially from a
member
> > of the core dev team (certainly not very
> > professional).
> >
> > In short ... take of your BSD blinders and
look
> > around before accusing someone of NOT doing
their
> > research, certainly when someone make a
concerted
> > effort to apologize for the noise ... then you
> > still feel the need to flame.
> >
> > BOOOOO .... BTW Google is a great tool!!!!!
> 
> David,  I think you have lost sight that we are
all volunteers.  We do
> not get paid for sitting here fielding 100
questions a day.   Please
> do not forget this.
> 
> Scott
> 
>
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