WHY would you want to shape your downstream channel? that kind of defeats the 
purpose of having the bandwidth there in the firstplace.

-Sean


Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:21:39 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] RE: T1 Saturating - Windows update kills the     
connection... ??

> It should just get slower and divide the bandwidth evenly since there are> no 
> rules to shape it.


Thats basically what should happen.
Of course things get all out of whack when the connection isn't symmetric (like 
most consumer connections). On those, you will see severe degradation in speed 
on the fast (download) side if you saturate the slow (upload) side.

I have often seen problems similar to what you are describing when the ISP is 
running a traffic shaper.
I don't know what kind of physical connection you have, but it might be 
something capable of carrying more than 1.5 mbit.
In that case, the ISP will limit you to your allocated bandwidth with a shaper 
on their end.If the shaper is configured incorrectly, you can see dramatic 
changes in speeds when the connection is active.

An easy way to see how bad the problem is would be to ping a server on the 
internet, and then start a download from a fast site while it's running (Like 
grab a kernel from www.kernel.org).
A single PC should *easily* be able to saturate a 1.5 mbit circuit with a 
download. You don't need 4 PCs doing Windows Update. You shouldn't even need to 
use Windows Update at all ... any download should do it.

While the download is running, the ping will go up (say from 20ms to 100ms), 
but with badly configured shapers I have seen it rise to several seconds before 
timing out.

As for the pfSense traffic shaper, there are problems there too.You can easily 
shape your upstream bandwidth since you are in charge of what is being sent.Try 
shaping the downstream side in any significant way, and the connection becomes 
pretty much useless :-(

Regards,-Jeppe

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