On 6 Mar 2012, at 17:00, [email protected] wrote:
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> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 04:03:47 +0200 (EET)
> From: Sampo Syreeni <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Me again - on the H/HJ hunt
> To: Surround Sound discussion group <[email protected]>
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> On 2012-01-25, Paul Hodges wrote:
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>> And given that HJ was defined to include within its tolerance zones 
>> both H and 45J, they could by definition have simply continued using 
>> existing H equipment and labelling the results HJ.

no, 45J predated UHJ.

H would not fit inside the HJ tolerance zone.

The ambisonic part of UHJ, as opposed to the pairwise referenced HJ used by the 
BBC, was and is 35JA'
UHJ was/is not a tolerance zone.

> 
> Yes. And that is one of the funkiest things about ambisonic 
> compatibility codings: you can't say there is just one codec. No, there 
> are encoders and decoders, separately. Because analog electronics 
> compatibility not only allows, but sometimes requires that sort of 
> thing.
> 
> I believe we should implicitly talk about precise encoders, here. 
> Because there is precisely one optimum way to decode what they produce, 
> evenwhile, say, UHJ allows a rather broad decoding band over the 
> Scheiber sphere.

DEcoding?
How do you described decoding on a Scheiber sphere?

If you mean encoding then BHJ has a precise single definition on the energy 
sphere, 5 parameters define the locus.

> 
> (Mind you, it was perhaps the first system in existence to explicitly 
> define itself through a decoder, and a one which wasn't perfectly well 
> defined either. Nowadays every digital codec defines itself that way, if 
> usually in a way which doesn't tolerate errors... ;)
> -

NO, it is precisely defined by the ENcoder, not the decoder.

The kernel (or equivalent B-format) encoding of UHJ was precisely and 
unambiguously defined.


Geoffrey
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