Sorry I got bogged down in technical details. Thanks for pointing that out to me.
What I should have said was that every recording on Ambisonia (~250, iirc) was available as a file that could be downloaded, burnt to CD, and played on a plain old 5.1 home theater system -- presumably just the kind that you, Neil, his work mates have, and many others have. No special playback setup needed. Same set of skills and computer set up that were needed to get files with Napster and make CDs from them. I seem to recall that plenty of people were able to do that. Anyway, I put some files at http://ambisonics.dreamhosters.com/DTS/ There are a few more and some discussion at http://www.ambisonic.net/decodes.html If needed, some instructions for burning and playing are on pages 10-13 of the SurCode manual http://www.minnetonkaaudio.com/info/PDFs/Manuals/SurCode%20DTS%20CD%20Manual.pdf Let me know what you hear... Aaron On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Robert Greene <gre...@math.ucla.edu> wrote: > > "All you need to do is..," is the end of the line here. > Commercially, you might as well try to sell a car > where all you need to do to start it is to type > in a ten digit code, sing Mary had a little lamb three times, > and notify the post office. > No one is going to go through this sort of thing in > the statistical sense of no one. > Most people do not even know what these words mean > "RIFF/WAV file ,4.0 decode etc" > Why would they want to find out? > Robert > > > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Aaron Heller wrote: > >> Ummmmm..... Every single recording on Ambisonia was available as a >> DTS-CD RIFF/WAV file of a 4.0 decode (that is, Center and LFE were >> silent). All one needed to do was burn them to a CD and play in a DVD >> player connected to a 5.1 home theater set up. See Richard Elen's >> article "Getting Ambisonics Around" for the technical details of the >> process. http://www.ambisonic.net/pdf/ambisonics_around.pdf >> >> I know there were several hundred downloads of my recordings in that >> format -- Stravinsky, Beethoven, Brahms, Dvorak, recorded with my >> Soundfield MkIV for NPR's Performance Today. >> >> -- >> Aaron Heller <hel...@ai.sri.com> >> Menlo Park, CA US >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Neil Waterman >> <neil.water...@asti-usa.com> wrote: >>> >>> I agree totally with Robert here. >>> >>> Most of my work mates have 5.1 set-ups at home, but would never be >>> bothered >>> to have anything that required more thought, so bring on the 5.1 mixes of >>> ambisonic source material and at least let the masses get a listen. >>> >>> Cheers, Neil >>> >>> >>> On 4/1/2012 6:44 PM, Robert Greene wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't think anyone thinks that! What people do think >>>> is that Ambisonics needs some sort of commercial accesibility-- >>>> which it could get if discs were put out that provided not >>>> abstract Ambisonics as it were but Ambisonics as decoded >>>> to the 5.1 set up. The message was that no one (statistically speaking) >>>> in the "real world" wants anything that requires thought >>>> and effort. >>>> Given that Ambisonics can be decoded to any speaker setup >>>> (even if the result is not idea), why are there no >>>> 5.1 SACDs that show how Ambisonics works on a 5.1 setup? >>>> One cannot expect people to be interested in something they >>>> cannot hear in demo form >>>> Robert >>>> >>>> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Augustine Leudar wrote: >>>> >>>>> again to anyone who says things like "ambisonics cant compete with 5.1 >>>>> please bear in mind this is like saying "amplitude panning can't >>>>> compete with 5.1 - it doesnt make any sense at all. You mix your >>>>> tracks horizontally ,without elevation, using ambisonics plugins and >>>>> burn your ac3/dts file like any other surround mix. Ambisonics is an >>>>> approach to creating a soundfield it does not require any special >>>>> hardware it can be done with software. The new 22.4 (or something) >>>>> sound systems that cinemas are launching soon will allow height >>>>> information as well. You could mix a lot of films using ambisonics >>>>> when this happens. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sursound mailing list >>>>> Sursound@music.vt.edu >>>>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sursound mailing list >>>> Sursound@music.vt.edu >>>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sursound mailing list >>> Sursound@music.vt.edu >>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sursound mailing list >> Sursound@music.vt.edu >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound >> > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
