i'd like to thank all of you on the list for your help..
i still have this vexing problem, but, you kind people have
given me lots of ideas in which direction to look.
the problem i have, with dealing with the "monitor-techs"
is, well, how do <i> see, what they see?
ah.. Humans.
even when you <know> you're right, you're wrong.
thanks for all your help, Gregory.
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