>> So, my stable [FastFlip Task Switcher with Arachne] system right now
>> is running _ALL_ IN CONVENTIONAL MEMORY. No UMB's are being used.
>> NOTHING IS LOADED HIGH!
--wrote Eric Yaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Eric, this is *very* interesting. I will try to proceed this way soon.
>I wonder whether I can afford loading everything into conventional
>memory with my configuration: DISPLAY.SYS with three code pages
>occupies 27kb on my PC. But may be I can put the whole codepage
>switching into fastflip boxes...
>I will let you know!
>Many thanks, Christof Lange
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>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.volny.cz/christianpeace
Well, Christof, my initial thoughts on your DISPLAY.SYS driver is that
if we load it in the normal conventional way, through the CONFIG.SYS
file, all 10 FastFlip pages (10 DOS prompts; 10 tasks) inherit the
DISPLAY.SYS and its 27Kb memory usage.
In the preceding paragraph I said "normal conventional way" for two
reasons:
A. In http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/msdos/sysutl.html I have seen
listed utilities to allow drivers to be loaded outside of the
CONFIG.SYS, anytime after bootup has finished. And also unloaded at any
time! (In fact, I downloaded one such utility from Simtel but I haven't
taken the time to try it out yet; I've seen 3 or 4 such utility programs
listed on download sites.)
B. Also in the same sites, I've seen references to many substitute
drivers that can be used instead of the MicroSoft drivers. MicroSoft's
drivers take up so much memory!
In fact the main strategy I used to get my "FastFlip Task Switcher with
Arachne DOS Internet Browsers, SpreadSheets, Text Editors, etc." system
running in conventional memory was to not only eliminate unnecessary
drivers (SETVER.EXE, POWER.EXE, IFSHLP.SYS, ANSI.SYS, ETC.), but to also
try to find many tiny substitute (non-MicroSoft) drivers. What I did
was as follows: 1. CTMOUSE Ver1.6 substituted for MS Mouse (about 6Kb
v.s. about 20Kb).
2. CUR.EXE /F /B substituted for 2 separate small utilities. (about 0Kb
v.s. 3Kb). What I accomplished here is to speed up (accelerate) cursor
rate AND to make a big block shape cursor. Unlike some other
utilities, CUR.EXE does not stay resident; so it just executes in a
millisecond then exits, taking up no conventional RAM.
3. !SA.COM substituted for ANSI.SYS (0Kb v.s. 4Kb). Here, I just needed
something to control the color of the screen, especially now that I have
10 DOS pages (10 DOS prompts)! If wanted, I can set each one to a
different screen color. !SA.COM does not stay resident, so takes up no
conventional RAM (0Kb).
4. In the future, I hope to use one of the many Ram Disk drivers that
will use MUCH less conventional memory that MicoSoft's RAMDRIVE.SYS. I
would like to find one that uses only 1 or 2Kb conventional memory and
not MicroSoft's 30Kb. I was excited to try COMBI.SYS Ver113, a
combination ram disk and disk cache that is supposed to take up only a
tiny amount of conventional RAM! But it gives the error message
"Incorrect DOS version". [CAN ANYBODY HELP ME WITH SUGGESTIONS/INFO on
my problem with COMBI.SYS?]
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C:\>MEM /C /P
Modules using memory below 1 MB:
Name Total = Conventional + Upper Memory
-------- ---------------- ---------------- ----------------
MSDOS 17 405 (17K) 17 405 (17K) 0 (0K)
HIMEM 1 168 (1K) 1 168 (1K) 0 (0K)
EMM386 11 344 (11K) 11 344 (11K) 0 (0K)
COMMAND 3 776 (4K) 3 776 (4K) 0 (0K)
CTMOUSEP 5 984 (6K) 5 984 (6K) 0 (0K)
SMARTDRV 32 096 (31K) 32 096 (31K) 0 (0K)
COLAP 2 480 (2K) 2 480 (2K) 0 (0K)
FASTFLIP 19 280 (19K) 19 280 (19K) 0 (0K)
COMMAND 3 168 (3K) 3 168 (3K) 0 (0K)
Free 558 448 (545K) 558 448 (545K) 0 (0K)
Memory Summary:
Type of Memory Total = Used + Free
---------------- ---------- ---------- ----------
Conventional 655 360 96 912 558 448
Upper 0 0 0
Reserved 196 608 196 608 0
Extended (XMS) 41 091 072 14 182 400 26 908 672
---------------- ---------- ---------- ----------
Total memory 41 943 040 14 475 920 27 467 120
Total under 1 MB 655 360 96 912 558 448
Total Expanded (EMS) 33 947 648 (33 152K
Free Expanded (EMS) 27 017 216 (26 384K
Largest executable program size 558 192 (545K)
Largest free upper memory block 0 (0K)
MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area.
================================
================================
REM Filename: CONFIG.AR2 For TOSHIBA T4800CT--"Arachne Internet Browser"
REM DATE/TIME: 2000.10.02 / 22:15 (yyyy.mm.dd) BY: ERIC YAEGER
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS /VERBOSE
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE HIGHSCAN X=C800-C8FF /VERBOSE
rem DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM X=E800-EFFF /VERBOSE ;<-- Note: This
;gives about 80Kb
;more conventional
rem BUFFERS=25,0 ;RAM! But was
BUFFERS=1,0 ;Note: I don't think ;lockups lockups??
FILES=50 ; I need buffers, because
DOS=UMB ; I'm running a disk cache,
LASTDRIVE=N ; SMARTDRV. 8Mb.
FCBS=4,0
DOS=HIGH
STACKS=9,256
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS /E:1024 /P
rem DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
rem DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE
rem DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
rem DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
REM COUNTRIES (OTHER THAN USA) HAVING CHAR SET 437:
REM 033 FRANCE 23.01.1993 17:35:00
REM 046 SWEDEN 1993-01-23 17.35.00
REM 049 GERMANY 23.01.1993 17:35:00
COUNTRY=046,437,C:\DOS\COUNTRY.SYS
REM ----------------------------------------------
REM The 1 following Ram Drive is a big one; 16MB.
rem DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\RAMDRIVE.SYS 16384 512 384 /E ;<--This takes too
REM ---------------------------------------------- ; much DOS RAM.
REM Note: Gives error msg: Incorrect DOS Version!
rem DEVICE=C:\DU\COMBI113\COMBI.SYS 16384
REM ----------------------------------------------
REM Imation SUPERDISK, 120Mb Diskettes.
rem DEVICE=C:\DV\LS-120\SD120PPD.SYS
rem DEVICE=C:\DV\LS-120\ASPIHDRM.SYS
================================
================================
REM Filename: AUTOEXEC.AR2 Toshiba T4800CT -- "ARACHNE Internet Browser"
REM Date/Time: 2000.09.30 04:15 (yyyy.mm.dd) / Author: Eric Yaeger
REM --Cute Mouse Driver V 1.6--
REM /Rnn n=1-9, horiz vert resolution.
SET MOUSE=C:\DV\MS\CTMOUS16
C:\DV\MS\CTMOUS16\CTMOUSEP.COM /R33
LH C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE 4096 4096 /V
rem --- Modem --------------
C:\DV\MM\1\PE.EXE -F -V ;<--US Robotics PCMCIA modem driver.
rem ------------------------
C:\UT\CUR.EXE /F /B ;<--Makes screen Fast and Block cursor.
c:\toshiba\COLAP.COM ON +4 /T ;<--Allows screen contrast adjustment
; with hotkeys RightShift-Up/Down Arrows
call C:\DU\DPATH30.COM /NO /NC;<--Allows setting of a "Data Path" for
; old programs that only operate in
; a current directory...
; Example: MicroPro WordStar 3.3 (1983)
; This allows this antique editor placed
; in C:\WSTAR\WS.COM, to be called by user
; in any 'current dir' so as to edit text
; files in 'current dir' but gives WS.COM
; the ability to find its two program
; overlay files C:\WSTAR\WSOVLY1.OVR
; and C:\WSTAR\WSMSGS.OVR
echo ------------------------ ;
CHOICE /T:y,2 Start FastFlip? ;
if errorlevel 2 goto skip ;
C:\SU\TASKSW\FFLIP218\FASTFLIP.EXE ;
:skip
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- Eric Yaeger ------> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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