"JJG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [...]
> PS you guys have me on the bug to attempt Linux again.  My goal is to
serve
> up the files to windoz clients on survpc hardware.  What distro should I
> pick and what programs do I need to run.  Finally, Is this going to be
> another lesson in frustration :).

Hey, good for you! YES, there will be some frustrations, but with them will
come learning and skills. If it was all point-and-click, it wouldn't be FUN!
This does bring up a dilemma though. There will be a LOT of new stuff to
learn, but you're trying to run it on older hardware. Some of the newer,
sexier distributions with the nice installs might not work well on the old
hardware.

Ideally, I'd say initially learn Linux on somewhat modern hardware unless
you're a real die-hard. AT LEAST make sure what you pick is supported on
your hardware. Then, once you've got the hang of it, create the server on
the surv-class hardware using a tighter distribution. You'll find I'm a big
Debian Linux fan for the level of control it provides, but there are merits
to others as well. I can't say that I know much about Steven's BasicLinux,
but if higher-end hardware is not available, at least you can ask him for
help here! :) What sort of Internet connectivity do you have? The
availability of broadband makes certain options more viable.

HARDWARE: Sounds like you'll want to muster up at least a 486 with 32MB RAM.
It can certainly be done with less, but it's a bit cumbersome (IMHO). RAM is
probably more important than CPU speed, though more of either can't hurt.
With low-end hardware, you'll want to avoid the GUIs (X) and stick purely to
shell (CLI). The actual server software you'll need will fit in 100MB of
disk easily, but make sure you have enough for the Windows users to store
their stuff. In terms of network card, you may be limited by the bus on your
system. 3Com and Intel cards are well supported, but somewhat pricey. Most
of the inexpensive PnP NICs are RTL-80xx based it seems, and they generally
"just work". Be aware that some oddball ones can be frustrating. Consider
spending $20-30 on a current NIC that's well supported. Also consider
another $30-40 for a good book ON YOUR DISTRIBUTION. This will help cover
any of the peculiarities that you sometimes encounter.

In terms of software, the Debian website at
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages will give you a good idea of what's
available. Here are what comes to mind:

1. Basic install: A "minimal" Debian install (or any other distribution) is
a good start. On Debian, this is roughly 12 diskettes worth.

2. Windows file & print sharing: Check out Samba
(http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/samba.html). Your Windows machines
will thing that old PC is a Windows NT server!

3. For dial-up Internet connection sharing: Check out Diald
(http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/diald.html) If you've got broadband,
ipchains or iptables can be used to share your connection. Done right, the
Linux server will connect whenever someone fires up a browser, and provide
address sharing and full firewall protection. 'Course, you can control when
this happens!

4. For Internet content filtering (ad stripping): Check out JunkBuster
(http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/junkbuster.html) You can strip out
ads and graphics on-the-fly.

5. For serving mail, I use Postfix
(http://packages.debian.org/stable/mail/postfix.html) and any of the readily
available POP3 or IMAP servers. For SPAM control, you might consider
procmail (http://packages.debian.org/stable/mail/procmail.html) with
something like JunkFilter
(http://packages.debian.org/stable/mail/junkfilter.html). I have my server
check mail throughout the day, then sort and filter messages BEFORE I check
mail.

These are just some ideas, based on how I'm using Linux at my house. You
don't need to do everything at once, and I'd recommend you go slowly at
first. Definitely get a base install and Samba going. The rest depends on
how far you want to take it. The packages I've noted above are only a
starting point, and there are DOZENS of alternatives for each. Linux is NOT
"Freedom From Choice", so you may spend a bit of time finding solutions that
are "just right". If it gets frustrating, just remember that THIS STUFF
WORKS, so just ask for help if you get stuck. Keep an open mind, have fun
exploring and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how well an old
SurvPC can be pushed into service as a fully capable replacement for a much
more pricey Windows server.

> I have been around computers since the
> C64 and am a fairly adept troubleshooter.  I just have very limited time
to
> fool around.

Hey, for an ex-C64 guy, this should be NO SWEAT! :)

Good luck with it, and feel free to ask any questions we might be able to
help with.

- Bob

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