Bob George wrote:
>
> However, when someone indicates they're already given
> up once on Linux

Following a failed GUI install.

> and only have a limited time to try it out, starting with
> a working system improves the odds they'll stick with it.

Unless I am confused (which is certainly possible), the
system we are talking about is a Pentium 66.  Despite the
fact that the worst secondhand Pentium sells for twice as
much as the best 486, a Pentium 66 is no better than a 486.
In fact, going by my handy chart of bogomips, my 486-100
rates twice as high as that Pentium.

Now, I sometimes do run a GUI on my 486, and it goes well.
But my GUI is extremely slim and finely tuned.  I would hate
to think what a GUI do-everything-for-you installation routine
would do to my machine.  It would turn to molasses.

> I hope everyone GETS to the point "where the action is",
> but I can also understand why some might want a more gentle entry.

Sure, if someone has a reasonable Pentium (Pro,MMX,II), they can
go for the gentle entry.  But I can't imagine that a "user friendly"
desktop GUI on a Pentium 66 will be a very pleasant experience.

> Even if one does a full-bloat GUI install of RedHat or Mandrake,
> one can still get to the the underlying innards easily.
> Most users I know who've started with a GUI Linux install start
> out using mindless point-n-click tools, but they eventually catch
> on to the power of working directly with the OS, at least at some
> level. Before you know it, they've got more xterms open than
> anything else.

Even with my slim GUI, an xterm is noticeably slower than the CLI.
For example, 'ls -R' from my / directory takes less than one minute
from the CLI and more than four minutes from an xterm.  Perhaps on
a fast Pentium, you don't notice the deadweight of the GUI, but on
a survPC you sure do.

This is the survPC list, so I tailor my advice to survPCs.  However,
if I am talking to an ordinary user with a powerful computer and a
point-and-click background, I would naturally steer him toward the
latest-and-greatest, do-everything-for-you GUI.

Cheers,
Steven

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