With attitudes like that newcomers to linux are greatly discouraged 
from learning. After all, *WHY* would you want to continue working 
with something that you're lost in if your questions are either 
ignored or you get flamed for asking?
So, the original poster was clueless regarding system security in 
linux. He didn't read EVERY howto file in exsistance. He doesn't 
understand the init process on his new system.
I suppose YOU were BORN knowlegable?
I've personally asked some rather (in perfect 20-20 hindsight) silly 
questions only to be pointed to the appropriate howto file (which I 
read and realized my blunder), but if I were flamed I would've just 
ended up killing off my partition and put a different OS on it in it's 
place where I could get at least friendly support. I've also been 
ignored in certain alleged support areas ranging from mailing lists 
to IRC. Where I was ignored or flamed I merely discarded that 
distro and tried another.

Just remember when a question SEEMS especially lame or lazy to 
you: The only stupid question is the one that is never asked.
 
> "Richardson_seaforth, Leigh" wrote:
> 
> Leigh, this post is not directed to you specifically but in a general response
> to this thread
> 
> Ok- I wrote a message yesterday regarding the original post/outcome of *not
> having root pw* after writing I said ahhh the hell with it, what does it matter
> my ranting directed to someone too lazy to utilize a simple root pw. Chances
> are... if their too incompetent to to secure the primary adm of the system
> AND....  connect to the net THEN be surprised someone telnetted to their box
> they will be deaf to suggestions of actually LEARNING anything useful about
> their system.
> How to disable services.... this was answered a few days ago is SEVERAL
> messages
> How to secure your system??? Use a root pw. Use a FW, Disable services as
> PREVIOUSLY described! Look in any Linux book on disabling services
> What vers of sendmail is secure...? The most current is the most secure.
> 
> Allot of people are using linux and don't want to be bothered with having to
> learn/reserch/test and understand their system. What Im seeing is people
> wanting to be spoon fed with "just do this and your all set" a no brainer so to
> speak. I doesn't work that way, there are too many variables.
> It takes time and effort to (properly) learn and implement a Linux system, if
> one isn't prepared to do this I consider it a gross waste of time replying to
> those who don't take the system seriously.
> 
> When I began with Linux most of my newbie questions went unanswered, now I
> understand why.
> My questions indicated I did not perform sufficient research and those who did
> the work didn't feel obliged to shared the hundreds of hours of time they spent
> providing me with a simple condensed answer that wont edify the newbie on what
> is really going on with the system.
> 
> Finally those who aren't humble enough to respect those who have more
> experience OR expect others to do their work for them, deserve what they get.
> As pleasant as this list is, Im beginning to believe its too soft
> rob
> 
> Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm
> 
> 
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