This is basically what I did with slackware. My perspective is the
"little push" someone mentioned.
I was a CADD person, I wanted to try Un*x and bought some disks and "The
Linux Bible" to name only a few. I spent a lot of time and money to get
PPP running, but it wasn't until one person gave me some pointers that I
finally got it running. There were holes that how-tos did not fill, and
I almost said "I hate to go to M$, but I spent a lot of time and money
and I have better things to do." I'm greatful for the help one person
provided, because the discouragement was growing.
There are two kinds of newbies; those, who really want the hand holding
and those, who want to learn. The first will eventually leave to become
the M$ elloi and those, who will eventually be sharing their knowledge
with newbies.
Last year when I first joined this list it became very easy to see whose
messages I should ignore.
Regards,
Bob
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>
> With attitudes like that newcomers to linux are greatly discouraged
> from learning. After all, *WHY* would you want to continue working
> with something that you're lost in if your questions are either
> ignored or you get flamed for asking?
> So, the original poster was clueless regarding system security in
> linux. He didn't read EVERY howto file in exsistance. He doesn't
> understand the init process on his new system.
> I suppose YOU were BORN knowlegable?
> I've personally asked some rather (in perfect 20-20 hindsight) silly
> questions only to be pointed to the appropriate howto file (which I
> read and realized my blunder), but if I were flamed I would've just
> ended up killing off my partition and put a different OS on it in it's
> place where I could get at least friendly support. I've also been
> ignored in certain alleged support areas ranging from mailing lists
> to IRC. Where I was ignored or flamed I merely discarded that
> distro and tried another.
>
> Just remember when a question SEEMS especially lame or lazy to
> you: The only stupid question is the one that is never asked.
>
> > "Richardson_seaforth, Leigh" wrote:
> >
> > Leigh, this post is not directed to you specifically but in a general response
> > to this thread
> >
> > Ok- I wrote a message yesterday regarding the original post/outcome of *not
> > having root pw* after writing I said ahhh the hell with it, what does it matter
> > my ranting directed to someone too lazy to utilize a simple root pw. Chances
> > are... if their too incompetent to to secure the primary adm of the system
> > AND.... connect to the net THEN be surprised someone telnetted to their box
> > they will be deaf to suggestions of actually LEARNING anything useful about
> > their system.
> > How to disable services.... this was answered a few days ago is SEVERAL
> > messages
> > How to secure your system??? Use a root pw. Use a FW, Disable services as
> > PREVIOUSLY described! Look in any Linux book on disabling services
> > What vers of sendmail is secure...? The most current is the most secure.
> >
> > Allot of people are using linux and don't want to be bothered with having to
> > learn/reserch/test and understand their system. What Im seeing is people
> > wanting to be spoon fed with "just do this and your all set" a no brainer so to
> > speak. I doesn't work that way, there are too many variables.
> > It takes time and effort to (properly) learn and implement a Linux system, if
> > one isn't prepared to do this I consider it a gross waste of time replying to
> > those who don't take the system seriously.
> >
> > When I began with Linux most of my newbie questions went unanswered, now I
> > understand why.
> > My questions indicated I did not perform sufficient research and those who did
> > the work didn't feel obliged to shared the hundreds of hours of time they spent
> > providing me with a simple condensed answer that wont edify the newbie on what
> > is really going on with the system.
> >
> > Finally those who aren't humble enough to respect those who have more
> > experience OR expect others to do their work for them, deserve what they get.
> > As pleasant as this list is, Im beginning to believe its too soft
> > rob
> >
> > Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm
> >
> >
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