Fuuny , There hasent been any niose over the MickSoft Refund . Its kind of
diaed down.
It will get interesting as M$ starts releasing win2000 , especialy in light
of all the apps that are broken by it. I wonder if they will blame it on a
Y2K compatability issue ??
Time for a new "hallowween" Document.
At 05:30 PM 3/18/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>
>I think this is the clever little game M$ has been playing. Frankly,
>when Windoze95 was first announced I wsn't even using a PC, but as my
>nkack for trivia usually does I noted that one of the experts commented
>that Win95 was more about hardware upgrading than software. I did not
>fully understand, but it caught my attention.
>
>I don't know much about benchmarks, but a real test of any OS is going
>to be done on the same hardware. Running OS/2 Warp 3.0 on a 486/33 I saw
>"more speed" IMHO than with Win95 on my NEC P166.
>
>So long as the guys and gals, who sign the checks to buy the OSs know
>little about what goes under the hood, so to speak, money will be poared
>down a hole.
>
>FYI I saw an interesting white paper comparing OS/2 and NT last year.
>IBM was looking at continued compatibilty of applications as
>users/businesses upgraded their OSs; downward not upward as M$ does.
>
>Also, for those, who did not see the Public Broadcasting System program
>that was shown here in the States(January, '99, I think) called "Nerds
>101," which looked at the web and pc there was an interesting comment. I
>can not quote it verbatim, so I will not claim to do so, but I think I
>keep with the spirit of the thought when I recount that one of the Sun
>people, who was interviewed stated that a top programmer in the industry
>made the observation, after being hired by M$, that he saw some of the
>worst programmers he had ever seen after going to M$. If this is true is
>there any wonder M$ OSs continue to grow larger and larger. Add to that
>that as with BEos M$ does not have the luxury to be able to devorce
>itself from old apps, or does it?
>
>Regards,
>
>Bob
>
>Samy Elashmawy wrote:
>>
>> >Great article.
>> >IDG.NET also published a article by Frank Hayes that parroted the
>> >Microsoft party line about NT being as cheap as Linux to install.
>> >I did a cost summary of the upgrade to Win95 and NT on the workstations
>> >and servers where I work, not counting replacing 3rd party software that
>> >the "upgrades" to the M$ OS requires because it broke them.
>> >When the upgrade from WFW 3.11 was completed we had replaced all of our
>> >386 and 486 machines with 586 P75's and higher. It took three years.
>> >We didn't include CDROMs or SOUND cards and the boxes averaged $1,500.
>> >Now, M$ is asking us to begin cycle of "upgrading" to machines that have
>> >128MB of RAM and 10GB of HD and a fast video. Assuming the same avg
>> >cost of $1,500 the NT 2000 "solution" will cost about $510,000 including
>> >hardware and license costs.
>>
>> I keep wondering when enough corps will just say enogh is enough. No
>> upgrades , well stick with what we have.
>> the only option we have as a consumer is to vote with our dollers. If a
>> signiificant No. say no , they will have to listen. I mean upgrades used to
>> be 30.00 , now your looking at $90.00 for "beta" versions , which break
>> every thing , and dont run as "advertized" . Have you tried win98 with 16
>> meg of ram..
>>
>> Its not only Mickysoft , but Intell as well. There is a constant "push in
>> the new , push out the old every six months. The more hardware they push
>> the more bloated the software comes out. Give me a break.
>>
>> To telll the truth , I have been running linux for 8 mos or so , fist tried
>> it on a 486 , and as a simple samba server w no x , it ran circles around
>> windows as far as sharing. Now I have it loaded on my desktoop , and on my
>> old desktop (p166 runing samba) and it has NEVER EVER CRASHED OR HAD A
>> HICUP ONCE THE HARDWARE AN SOFTWARE WAS CONFIGURED/SETUP. My only gripe has
>> been with the sis6326 suppoer , and Lenz was on the ball and ststed upfront
>> that there were problems on it and that xfree was working on it. Try that
>> with Micky soft.
>>
>> >Because Linux can use our P266 machines with 32 and 64MB of RAM just
>> >fine, and the 4.3 Bigfoots are also more than enough, ONE SuSE will do
>> >the whole thing for $50.
>>
>> Hmm , think where you can spens the other 400,000 or so ???
>> Last six months have been amazing , witha all the software and hardware
>> manf jumping onto the fray. Its scary , immagine software and drivers for
>> ever thing that work ,Billy will be in hot !@$#
>>
>> The majotr roadblock is application on the desktop. We need more apps. Give
>> the apps , and some one will fix/deal with the install isues. Open source
>> will allow this to happen.
>>
>> >According to Frank, $510,000 is about the same as $50. And my 95 yr old
>> >mother-in-law is as beautiful as Cindy Lawford.
>> >Even if we give each workstation a complete distro so they can have the
>> >manual, which is well worth the cost, the total cost is only $10,000
>> >which is still WAY BELOW the NT "solution".
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