David, Steve, Jerry and all,
I need not, nor have any desire to convince anyone on earth other than myself as to the validity of said circumstances or scientific properties thereof. I simply do not have the time to dwell on it for any persons sake other than my own. Others here may have that job, not me. I am selfish in that I think you should try it for yourself as I have and not take things you see written on any message group as the gospel truth. I can only speak for myself and for what I have seen, what I have done and what works for me. Dozens of tankfulls have convinced me that something is going on there and I do not need another persons opinion as to the fact that it is, or is not. Driving conditions have been averaged many times before I gave the 4-5 mpg figure. I do not care if you disagree with this statement. Others come up with as much as 30% with increased power as well. You can explore this yourself. I have paved the way to my successes with mileage and feel that you should do the same if you are so inclined. I see you all have explored this matter in great depth and you remain extremely skeptical. If what you have learned about it is good enough for you, then I can accept that. I can accept that it is YOUR opinion. I, for that matter, am very skeptical of almost everyone in all of these message groups that can consider themselves experts of everything known to man. THAT seems highly unlikely to me. Please, I mean no ill will towards anyone mentioned, nor anyone else here. Again it is just my observance of things I see when I step back and look at the big picture. The breaking down of petroleum based products by **many** means is well documented. Your catalytic converter does that every time you turn the ignition switch. Unfortunately, it is in the wrong place to do us any good at all. Do you believe that known catalysts are the only triggers that can do this? I'm serious... There are many, many fuel catalysts. It would take you quite a long time to list them all and I'm almost positive you would leave some out of the picture if you did. Most of the precious metals are on the list as well as some common metals One of the best catalysts at the present you can work with is not a metal at all. It is Zeolites, a mineral. It is used in some high-end cat litter to minimize smell as well as refinery applications. See what the professionals are using to break down olefins and go with that in your on-board mobile refinery if you want to seek high mileage gains. My advice... Take it or leave it... shove it down the drain... Whatever... I do not think that magnets and what they can do is magic, though they are used by many folks to create illusions. Magnets are real, with real properties that we have only begun to explore. Without them, you could not possibly read this type, drive in a car or generate electricity to name a few incidentals. Any household out there has thousands of magnets in countless numbers of gadgets doing wonderfull things. That is what I believe. You can look at this site: http://www.fut.es/~sje/mag_fuel.htm as they have some info on the subject of magnets in regards to fuel, but do not take anyones word for it. This is the internet after all. D.I.Y Peace, Sam --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam, > I sometimes think this is why some of these things work. Because > people want them to work they work. The easiest way to obtain high mpg is to > keep your foot off the gas pedal. This works everytime in my experience. For > trials to be comparable all the variables have to remain constant and when > you come to motor vehicles they invariably are not. Forgive me if I am > cynical but unless you can totally convince me that long hydrocarbon chains > are being broken down to shorter chains and better vaporisation is occurring > as a result of the magnetic field I remain totally sceptical. I admit I have > done very little research on this aspect. Years ago I spent 5 months > travelling the length and breadth of India seeing quite a lot of things I > could not understand. As I have grown older I have learnt or understand how > most of them were done. There are a number of things I still cant explain > but because I cant explain them dosnt make them magic. Ninety nine % of the > time there is a logical explantion. Forgive me if I am still critical. > B.r., David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:16 AM > Subject: [biofuel] Re: magnetic savings / alky + dyno / hard water / > <snipping > > > > > I use fuel line magnets myself, the rare earth variety out of the PC > hard drives, and I get a steady mileage increase of 4-5 mpg. I firmly > believe in them myself. Not everyone who has tried them gets good > results right off the bat. The trick is to move them around until you > find a sweet spot and keep them there. Do not just slap them on, find > you get no gain and say that they will not work. Sometimes it takes a > few tries at postitioning to get it right. Work with it some before > you give up on them. > Also, they are only effective on rubber lines as far as the research > that I'm privy to goes. No effect on steel lines whatsoever. Someone > I know is experimenting on an electromagnetic field on gas lines > further enhancing the desired effect. Tin and tin alloys are also > great to experiment with as a catalyser for breaking down the long > chain hydrocarbons which is what you are trying to do with the > magnetic fields. > If you want ultra high mileage gains, then there is no substitute for > TCC or Thermal Catalytic Cracking of the fuel (as long as your > dealing with hydrocarbons that is). This is basically the same > procedure used to create our fossil based fuels from crude oils. Fact > is, there are some really nasty low end products even in the best > gasoline that prevent catalysts from working well before combustion > where it can do you the most good as far as efficiency and mileage is > concerned. In gasoline there is 10% of the so-called "additives" > which are not additives at all but stuff that is not taken OUT of the > process and that is what kills mileage. Remember, the worlds record > for specialty marathon high mileage vehicles is well over 9,000 mpg. > > Why is it that every time that the EPA raises the level of ratings > for mpg, the car companies are so quick to comply? Why didn't they > produce them sooner? They are not years away from getting the product > in question to the market. Makes you wonder, eh? It happens as soon > as the upper limits are raised. Is this a trade off? The EPA says, OK > you are making a SUV that gets only 12-15 mpg, so now you have to > produce a vehicle that gets 50-60-70? > Maybe I'm wrong, I have been once, :-) but the conspiracy theories > about high mileage abound in the circles that I'm in. > I'm in the process of being hacked, possibly to find out what I know > about all this and I'm being mail bombed on a daily basis as a > harrassment ploy. > I'm not paranoid at all. I just know what's out there and what's > being done to curtail these new/old technologies. > Vested intrests regarding these matters are VERY powerfull. > > MooNShiNeR Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
