> > Got any stats on how many of them are not city-bound? How many of > them ever went off the tarmac?
no i don't, i'm not very scientific... > This one does, or did - make a fool out of your ford f250 4x4, I reckon. > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_404.html > The best car in the world cool > > Not the only one either. There are plenty of other big countries, > just as open with long distances and tough demands as the US, very > often much worse conditions, and in most of them US vehicles like > yours are not admired. Their vehicles are usually smaller and > lighter, much less greedy, and more capable. > i'm definitely interested in long-lasting, tough vehicles that are fairly simple to take care of, diesel or electric. i also forgot about boats especially home-built. > > what i'd like to see, take down the roads to about 1/10 the existing > >ammount, all 2 lanes, all familys move into 2-400 square foot 5th wheels, > >trailers, etc. singles could be in truck campers, everyone becomes more > >hunter gatherer-like in these modern tipees, make the whole earth into one > >big national park we all share, planting fruits, nuts, oil crops etc., > >creating an oasis that all can roam and thrive/play in... ooops got carried > >away..... > > Nostalgia, eh? For a world that never even existed. Fruits, nuts - no meat? i'm trying to head for this "nostalgic" life even today, theres over 250+ million acres of public land available, thats mine too right!? besides being on a permanent camping trip is way more fun. deserts, mountains, oceans all of it yours too! no i think wild game should be included. i've played the entire diet spectrum, strict vegan, fruitarian etc. never could stick to no animal food for a long period of time, 6+ months ,though i really tried for 15+ years. now i really don't feel in the long term that its healthy. so i think a more indian omnivourous diet is in order. i think this is where we need to head: "The early explorers consistently described the native Americans as tall and well formed. Of the Indians of Texas, the explorer Cabeza de Vaca7 wrote, "The men could run after a deer for an entire day without resting and without apparent fatigue. . . one man near seven feet in stature. . . runs down a buffalo on foot and slays it with his knife or lance, as he runs by its side." The Indians were difficult to kill. De Vaca reports on an Indian "traversed by an arrow. . . he does not die but recovers from his wound." The Karakawas, a tribe that lived near the Gulf Coast, were tall, well-built and muscular. "The men went stark naked, the lower lip and nipple pierced, covered in alligator grease [to ward off mosquitos], happy and generous, with amazing physical prowess. . . they go naked in the most burning sun, in winter they go out in early dawn to take a bath, breaking the ice with their body." > > > the average "full-time" rv'er uses a fraction of the resources of the > >average 2500+ home plus all the cars that go with it, even with their > >migrating included. > > They're the same people - those are the people who have SUVs. well thats true, some of those monster rigs are disgusting... > >guess who has the richer LIFE? its not the size of the > >vehichles, its how they are being used......... > > And methinks most SUVs are mostly used for short-hop city runs. its treacherous going to the movies!!! > >nunativs?!? > > What does this mean? "New-Natives": take the best of the new-ways, the opportunity for a broad range of rich experience, access to all knowledge, (computors) BUT pare all this down to its essential core, 1/10th or less so nature is the overall experience instead of the human thing. combined with the wisdom of the old ways. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/it_ffB/R_ZEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
