Dear Joel,
This information was provided earlier by Keith as an argument on this issues. Since it is the round for last word, I like to clarify my understanding of the discussion. Motie who is deeply involved with forest management in the area where he lives, have some local and particular problems. This has to do with how his particular forest works and how different interest groups acts with regards to his forest. When I say his forest, I mean the forest that he has interest in. Motie made it clear from the outset of the discussion, that he was talking about his forest and his opinion of what happened there. Discussing the issue from the outside, made me bringing up several points about forest management that was within my knowledge and experiences. During this exchange, I became fully convinced that Motie knew very well what he talked about and he was a responsible and caring representative for the forest management interests in his forest. I did of course not know his forest and my arguments and convictions had in this case to be of general nature. Keith who is a knowledgeable man in this field, picked up on the global aspect, but not without first recognizing Motie's competence and that he was the best one to talk for his forest. Said this, I like to add the following last words, Our nature is a sensitive environment that through millions of years developed a balance between the species. When some species started to dominate to a level that was not sustainable, things happened on both short and long term that corrected it. We now have a specie that are growing out of proportion, we call them humans and on short term the nature already started to try to apply corrections, long term nature will succeed. The impact of the humans is severe and during a very short time period they have caused enormous damages. Its survival will be totally dependent on responsible and sustainable management of nature. If we leave the solutions to nature, it will be very painful for the future humans that have to take the consequences of todays excesses. The environmentalist that wants to leave things only to nature, must also belive in the natural thinning of the human population. They should fight against medicines, transport, feeding starving people and all the other things that work against the natural control of the human population. Personally I prefer a managed sustainable world, even if it is no chance that I will ever see it. But we all have to work against this goal and show some kind of responsibility in trying to find a comfortable level for future humans or at least give them a chance to survive. Hakan At 08:53 PM 12/15/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but I just came across this in The >Wilderness Society's magazine for 2002-2003: > >"Some politicians maintain that conservation groups profess to support >forest thinning and other preventative measures but then appeal the lion's >share of the actual plans. <snip> Yet in 2001 the U.S. General Accounting >Office (GAO) found that during the six-month period it reviewed, just over >one percent of the Forest Service's proposed projects were challenged." > >The article quoted environmentalists who propose retaining the largest trees >and cutting only the small-diameter trees, focusing first on communities >that have sprung up near forest land. The timber industry, however, insists >on going after big trees in remote areas. > >One other point: some of those dead trees that have been oft-mentioned >lately are "bug factories" that are very beneficial to eco-system health. >Case in point: the three-toed woodpecker, which has recovered due to being >able to eat those dead trees' inhabitants. > >Once again, it is the environmentalist view that is promoting thinning of >dead brush and small-diameter trees, which improves fire safety for humans >living in or near the forest, while leaving the forest healthy and intact. > >Sorry to start this up again, but I just HAD to... >-Joel R. > >(The Wilderness Society's well-rounded view is at www.wilderness.org ) Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
