> >I can mostly agree with this, MM, but I have absolutely NO sympathy > >for your ideas on "where we are getting our fuel and at what price". > >The huge price is to the people of the Middle East, and the world, > >and there's worse to come, from the same culprits - led, first and > >foremost, by the US and its oil corporations, which have been > >twisting that whole region out of shape for generations in order to > >screw cheap oil out of it. Self-inflicted injury, that's all, and > >VERY minor by comparison - not (yet) severe enough to force the > >beneficiaries (wilfully blind American consumer energy wastrels) to > >look the facts in the face at last. > >
crist, someone has been listening to saddam too much. If the US wanted to get Iraqi oil, then why wouldnt they just have overtaken all those wells the last time the iraqi put their hands up after 100 hours of ground fighting? They aren't out to steal oil, or they also would have just overtaken Saudi when they had half a million troops there. > >Meanwhile Israel hies itself off to the good old US in search of yet > >another $12 billion in "aid", mostly weaponry, much of it no > >doubt to > >be used in terrorist acts against unarmed civilians, business as > >usual. That just doesn't figure in this cosy little "where > >we get our > >oil from" anti-OPEC equation, now does it? Israelis themselves are > >increasingly opposed to this, vehemently so, but you take no > >notice - > >they're wrong, that's that. Or, easier, simply fail to notice it. more dikness. Terrorism is acts against civilians for the political cause. It isnt just defined as violence that 'happens' to be against what you personally would like to see. How about i come into your yard and start beating your dog, and when you try to stop me, i sue you for violence against me.. terrorist! If you will notice, there are no Isrealis blowing up cafeterias.. i wonder why not? lots of civilians there! Perhaps your compatriates will get more sympathy when instead of bombing discos, cafes etc, they tried bombing military targets etc. People seem to care less if you attack military targets instead of people picking their nose and reading a book. You may not like the 'aid'.. but given that they are the only democracy in the region, and people around them outnumber them 70-1..and continually pose threats.. they probably need some help. I wonder what the palestinians do with all the aid the US gives them. .. the most of any country.. including their rich buddies over there. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/