Hello Walt

All fair enough, just want to comment on this bit:

<snip>

>       While I appreciate the skepticism, and agree that there's a 
>lot of snake
>oil out there,

For my part, I'm sceptical about these claims, but I'm not really 
negative about it, though many are, "free energy" is almost a 
blasphemy to some. I do believe there's an answer to the energy 
problem, a REAL answer, that remains to be found, but all the snake 
oil doesn't help at all, it discourages and hampers any real 
research. It's the scammers I'm against, not free energy per se.

So far the scepticism's been well-founded. Look at this one, for 
instance, from about 18 months ago - I haven't checked the links, no 
need, sadly:

Irish inventor says he's cracked world's energy needs
Wednesday, January 23, 2002
By Kevin Smith, Reuters
http://www.remnantsaints.com/AlternativeUtilities/free_energy_Ireland.htm

http://www.cosmiverse.com/science01230206.html
Science News
Irish Inventor Constructs Free Energy Device
this device is so phenomenal that it "shatters the laws of science".

http://www.chennaionline.com/science/invent.asp
The power of invention
A multi-meter reading of the batteries' voltage before the device 
started up showed a total of 48.9 volts. When it was switched off, a 
second reading showed 51.2 volts...

And a website! - and a promise:

http://www.jasker.com/
Jasker Power Systems International
It is our objective to launch the Jasker Power Systems technology on 
a global basis. Details will be posted on our web-site as they are 
released.

And now:

http://www.jasker.com/
jasker.com :: this domain is for sale
www.jasker.com  $600
The owners of the domain name jasker.com are accepting offers from 
interested parties willing to obtain ownership rights over the domain 
name. You can place your bid by filling out the form below.

:-(

You see.

We had rather an interesting discussion here awhile back on what to 
do if you'd discovered a viable, cheap, energy source anyone could 
use anywhere, true energy independence - how would you handle it? How 
would you stop it getting bought out and locked up in a little box in 
back room somewhere, for instance?

>I'm more than ready to give the benefit of the doubt to
>articles that list actual patent numbers.

"1635 - first of many English perpetual motion machine patents 
granted. - by 1903, 600 such patents had been granted. Free energy 
claimants love impressing people with patents (most people don't 
understand that a patent can't promise feasibility)."
http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html

Best

Keith

>with best wishes,
>
>Walt
>http://www.windward.org/


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