I think that the beauty of the Ovonic system is that it uses process heat to release the H2 from the storage tanks. The heat generated either from an H2 ICE or a FC could also help with this:
http://www.ovonics.com/res/2_4_solid_hydrogen/solid_hydrogen.htm My gut tells me that although pressurized lightweight tanks are fairly safe these days (see NGV lightweight vehicle tanks), there is what I call the "Hindenburg" perception of gaseous hydrogen storage, even though that was proven a falsity. Liquid H2 storage is too difficult to implement and maintain so that will be weeded out fairly quickly. Another plus of the metal-hydride storage is the higher energy density. That will also be a factor in what form H2 storage will occur in vehicles. James Slayden On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Hakan Falk wrote: > > MM, > > Formation and reformation of hydrogen/whatsoever combinations as storage > techniques are obviously the way to go forward. It is however a storage > process that in itself require energy and I have not yet seen any > substantial discussions of the energy costs for this. The energy has to > come from somewhere. We have so many times agreed that hydrogen is a > storage technology, if generated from renewable sources, and now we are > talking about storage technologies of the storage technology. We need > overall comparable figures, viability analysis and costs. We also need to > know where the energy should be originating from, because this is an open > question that everybody seems to do almost anything to avoid. > > We have a major energy supply problem ahead of us, not a major energy > storage problem. > > Hakan > > At 01:51 PM 10/21/2003, you wrote: > >This article assumes onboard pressurized storage. It should at least > mention > >the future possibility of Liquid H2 (such as BMW has been working on) or > metal > >hydride storage) such as Ovonic seems to have implemented with a > modified > >Prius: > > > ><http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031020/dem017_1.html>http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/ > 31020/dem017_1.html > > > >As always, I'm not advocating these solutions, just mentioning them. I > >tend to > >think a "chemical" solution (such as "carrying" H2 in molecules of > C2H5OH) > >will > >continue to be the solution of choice for many. > > > >On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:37:59 +0200, you wrote: > > > > > > > >Although I can see large advantages in hydrogen as storage in > stationary > > >power generation and military mobile applications, I see that it is > going > > >to take a long time before we see the hydrogen economy for propelling > > >transport in general. > > > > > >Hydrogen as a Fuel for Automobiles > > > ><http://energy.saving.nu/hydrogen/hydrogenstorage.shtml>http://energy.sav > > ing.nu/hydrogen/hydrogenstorage.shtml > > > > > >Hydrogen as a Fuel for Automobiles > > >By <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Carl Johnson, BA > Physics, > > >Univ of Chicago, > ><<http://mb-soft.com/public2/index.html>http://mb-soft.com/public2/index.html>I > dex > > of Public > > >Service Pages. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > click here > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
