Arthur Sauerhaft wrote:

>>I must admit, I've never heard of Godwin's Law, and  I've lost by 
>>that standard, but when if not in this case is it appropriate to 
>>mention the Nazi's or Hitler?
>
>I'll tell you that tomorrow, never fear, but right now it's late and 
>I'm going to sleep.
>
>>Is is that these things should never be spoken of, or better yet forgotten?
>
>:-)
>
>Perhaps you'd care to tell me just what you've based that assumption 
>on, as there's nothing at all here to support it.

Nazis, eh, Arthur? Ever met one? You think you guys have got some 
sort of franchise on all this stuff? I'll tell you a story. It's a 
true story.

I'm a journalist. I used to be a South African. I worked mostly for 
the black press there, not a very common pursuit during the dark days 
of the white racist apartheid era in the 60s and 70s. I was deeply 
involved in black issues and kept getting into trouble as a result. 
Eventually I got arrested and fled, left the country for a while to 
let things cool down. I went to London, got a job in Fleet Street and 
rented a studio flat belonging to an old couple in Hampstead. They 
both met me at the door when I arrived there, a small woman and a 
tall man. They stared at me, then looked quickly at each other, and 
asked me in. I seemed to make an instant hit - they couldn't do 
enough to make me feel welcome. There was something intensely warm 
and human about them, and we quickly became friends. They were really 
in love - they'd been together for 25 years, and doted on each other 
like a young couple. One evening we were sitting together in their 
kitchen drinking coffee, and they told me their story.

They were German Jews, and they'd met in a Nazi death camp during 
World War 2. They'd been interned with their whole families, and each 
had watched all their loved ones taken off to die, one by one, 
spouses, children, parents, until each was the only one left alive. 
That was when they'd found each other, and somehow survived the 
insane daily horror together to be liberated by the Allies in 1945. 
Eventually they'd made their way to London, and started life again.

The old woman told me: "You are our fourth tenant. By pure chance, 
the other three were all young German men." Her smile twinkled at me: 
"And you too are tall and fair - you look like a German. Our English 
friends were amazed that we could have Germans staying here - 'How 
can you bear it after what they did to you?' they asked." She was 
silent for a few moments.

"But it was not these young men who did it. If we'd blamed them, if 
we'd turned them away, we would have learnt nothing from our 
suffering, it would have been wasted. So we welcomed them, and we did 
not regret it."

I couldn't say anything, something caught at my throat. I've seldom 
seen anyone so beautiful as the old woman looked to me just then.

Jews were nothing new to me, there's quite a big Jewish community in 
South Africa. I'd had them around all my life, neighbours, friends, 
schoolmates, workmates. When I started a rock band there were a 
couple of Jewish members, I spent a lot of time with the Jewish 
drummer and his family, also warm, human people, kind and generous. 
Virtually the whole Jewish community was dead set against the 
apartheid system and its evils. Maybe there were some who supported 
it but I don't think I ever met one. Many of them actively opposed 
it, many were jailed for it.

One didn't hear much about Israel then, nor Zionism, until 1967 and 
the Six-Day War, and then all my Jewish friends were wrestling with 
issues I didn't understand. It wasn't too long after that that I met 
some Israelis for the first time. They weren't supposed to have been 
there and I shouldn't have met them. But defence was my beat at the 
time, and they were military people, IDF and so on, involved in 
military support and collaboration with the apartheid government, in 
breach of the UN arms embargo against South Africa. This 
collaboration extended to the development of nuclear weapons, from 
about 1967 through the 70s and 80s. Israeli nuclear scientists 
visited South Africa in 1967 and later. South Africa provided Israel 
with 550 tons of uranium for its weapons program, Israel supplied 
South Africa with tritium and with technical information. In 1979 
they tested a bomb together in the South Atlantic. Israel was 
involved with the apartheid regime in other ways. There was 
intelligence collaboration, military training IIRC, also IIRC 
involvement in training and arming black militias during the "civil 
war" phase of the 80s. And so on. Good friends, Israel and white 
racist South Africa during its most oppressive stage.

So what has all this got to do with anything? This: John Vorster, 
South Africa's arch-racist Prime Minister from 1966 to 1978, was a 
Nazi. Let's get this straight: Vorster was not a Nazi sympathiser, he 
was a Nazi, by word and by deed, and there was nothing particularly 
unusual about it. In the mid-1970s at the height of the Israeli-South 
African military collaboration, more than half of Vorster's Cabinet 
were Nazis. It was no secret, the Israelis certainly knew it and it 
didn't deter them or apparently bother them at all.

These South African Nazis had belonged to a paramilitary organisation 
called the Ossewa Brandwag (the "Ox-wagon Guard") during WW2. It was 
a Nazi movement, its leader, Hans van Rensburg, was a fervent admirer 
of Hitler. The OB attempted to disrupt South Africa's war effort 
through intimidation, sabotage and assassination. In 1940 and 1941 
they were responsible for 25 bombings in the Witwatersrand area 
alone, targeting newspaper offices, cinemas, shops and railway lines. 
Terrorists. Sounds like the Stern Gang and Irgun, eh? Deir Yassin and 
so on. Well, not as bad as Deir Yassin. Anyway, in 1942 Vorster was 
arrested for his involvement and spent the rest of the war in 
internment.

The OB was not a fringe movement. It had almost half a million 
members at its peak. When Germany's defeat appeared inevitable, its 
popularity began to wane and many of its members transferred their 
loyalty to the National Party, which became the ruling party in 1948, 
the party of apartheid and Prime Minister John Vorster. (Shamir, 
Begin?)

There's some interesting history here. The Ossewa Brandwag was 
founded in October 1938 to embody and perpetuate the Afrikaner 
nationalist idealism to which that year's Voortrekker Centenary 
celebrations had given rise.

Some definitions. "Afrikaners" are white South Africans, descendants 
of the 17th century Dutch settlers, and, later, French Protestant 
Hugeonot refugees. Their language is Afrikaans, a sort of archaic 
form of Dutch. Britain took the colony from the Dutch at the 
beginning of the 19th century and instituted an oppressive rule from 
which large numbers of Afrikaner farmers ("Boers") eventually fled, 
travelling north into the hinterland in their oxwagons, facing great 
difficulties and perils, eventually to found the two independent Boer 
Republics of the Transvaal and the Orange Free State. These were the 
Voortrekkers, their epic journey the "Great Trek". The oxwagon was 
and still is a major motivating symbol for the Afrikaners.

Their freedom was shortlived, however. Following the discovery of 
large deposits of gold in the Transvaal Republic, Britain attacked 
the Boer Republics and the Boer War ensued (1899-1902). Contrary to 
all predictions, it didn't go well for the Brits. There were only 
about 60,000 Boer commandoes pitted against the full might of the 
British Empire, with 350,000 soldiers in the field and endless 
resources. But the Brits were no match for them. The Boers were 
guerrilla fighters, which they'd learnt from the black tribes in 150 
years of skirmishing over land and cattle, and the British couldn't 
beat them.

Eventually Lord Kitchener of Khartoum, fresh from defeating the 
Dervish armies of the Mahdi in Sudan, hit upon the final solution. In 
a brutal campaign, the British destroyed the Boer farms, built chains 
of blockhouses criss-crossing the land, and brought a new term to 
darken the dawn of the 20th century - concentration camps. They 
herded the Boer women and children into concentration camps, where up 
to 30,000 of them died of disease and starvation. Meanwhile dragnets 
of troops went through the guerrilla country section by section, and 
by 1902 the remaining Boers surrendered, starved and crushed.

The rest of the world was outraged. Britain became the "dirty dog" of 
Europe for the way it had "won" the war. So at the Union negotiations 
that followed, to make the two British colonies of the Cape and Natal 
and the two defeated Boer republics one country, the British team 
held the low moral ground, and made concession after concession to 
the Boer negotiators, especially of Black rights, the Boers' old 
enemies: the Black franchise, voting rights, land rights, all were 
lost. This was when the ANC was formed, Nelson Mandela's party which 
now governs the new South Africa since it emerged from the long 
nightmare. But the concentration camps still echo down through the 
years to today, and who's to say it's over yet.

The Boers were left in poor shape after Union, despite the 
concessions. British and English-speaking white South African 
interests were in control of commerce, finance, mining, everything, 
the Boers were poverty-stricken farmers in the outlying areas, 
effectively shut out of their own country. This has actually been 
referred to as "the years of wandering in the wilderness".

This was the setting for the Voortrekker Centenary celebrations of 
1938. It was planned and organised by the Afrikaner Broederbond 
(Brotherhood), an elite underground secret society formed in 1918 
composed of far rightwing clergymen, teachers, public servants and 
members of parliament. In the early 1930s the Broederbond was 
reorganised on the pattern of Hitler's Nazi state, complete with 
fuehrer, gauleiters, group and cell leaders, spread in a sinister 
network over the whole of South Africa. This was initiated by 
Broederbond members who were sent to Germany, at Nazi expense, to 
study the Nazi cell system. It was planned by a delegate from Nazi 
Germany in consultation with the leader of the National Party, Dr 
D.F. Malan.

As was subsequently discovered from captured German documents, the 
Nazis had sent their delegate, Graf von Durckheim Montmartin, to 
South Africa in 1934 for secret consultations with Broederbond 
leaders, to try to ensure that South Africa would side with Germany 
in the world war Hitler was already planning. The breakaway National 
Party was more or less a Nazi-Broederbond project.

The Voortrekker centenary celebrations of 1938 gave the whole 
Nationalist movement  a massive boost. It took the form of an 
ox-wagon procession from Cape Town along the original routes used by 
the Voortrekkers and culminated in a huge celebration at Pretoria. It 
was a major event in every village and town on the way, with 
countless appeals to the glories of the past and calls for the 
renaissance of the Afrikaner volk (people), now scattered and 
disunited in the land of its birth and creation. Appeals were made to 
all Afrikaners to join together to achieve their national salvation. 
It resulted in a tremendous upsurge of national feeling among the 
Afrikaner people and shifted the balance of power substantially in 
the direction of the National Party.

It was in this atmosphere that the Ossewa Brandwag was born. South 
African Nazism was much wider than the OB, however: the OB was just 
the paramilitary wing. Nazis and Nazi influence were widespread 
throughout the Afrikaner Nationalist movement, at the highest levels. 
The National Party adopted anti-Semitism as an official plank in its 
platform. It forced an "Immigration Quota Act" through Parliament 
which deliberately clamped down on Jewish immigrants. An Afrikaner 
Nazi organisation, the Greyshirts, started a disgusting racist smear 
and propaganda campaign against Jews and Jewish immigrants that 
resounded throughout the Nationalist movement. A quota system for 
Jews in all occupations was proposed, pressing for Jews to be refused 
trading licences. The Nationalists pushed for laws prohibiting Jewish 
immigration, for the deletion of Yiddish as a recognized European 
language for immigration purposes, for the closing of certain 
professions to Jews and other "non-assimilable races". South Africa 
had a "Jewish problem", they said - when Jews comprised more than 4% 
of a population there was trouble, and the Jews in South Africa 
totalled 6-7%.

"Many German Jews who might have found safety in South Africa were to 
perish in Hitler's death camps as a direct consequence of the 
agitation by the Nationalist Party and the cowardice of the Hertzog 
government," according to one scholar.

Another Nationalist Nazi organization was the South African Gentile 
National Socialist Movement, devoted to destroying the "perversive 
influence of the Jews in economics, culture, religion, ethics, and 
statecraft and to re-establish European Aryan control in South Africa 
for the welfare of the Christian peoples of South Africa".

You get the gist of it. South Africa went to war on the British side 
on a majority of one in the vote in Parliament.

After the war both the Nazism and the anti-Semitism became 
"unfashionable" and subsided - or at least disappeared from view, 
mostly. But such things, once implanted, are very difficult to 
uproot. Each of them would rear their ugly heads now and again.

I don't suppose many people know about all this, but it's true enough 
- there's a lot more of it, all well-established. I don't think it's 
controversial. There's at least one book about it, The Rise of the 
South African Reich, written in the 60s. I just checked some of the 
names and figures there, but I know the story well. In essence, South 
Africa's murderous white racist regime was a Nazi plot.

Despite the eerie echoes, I don't make much of a comparison between 
the Boer War concentration camps on the one hand and Israel and the 
Holocaust on the other, excepting to note that in both cases it's 
resulted in the victims wreaking victimisation on others. But there 
are comparisons. It's often said the Palestinians have been forced 
into virtual Bantustans. Israelis and Palestinians have visited the 
new South Africa together to try to build bridges of peace that might 
help Israel to follow the same path of reconciliation.

Anyway, Zionist Israel doesn't seem to mind collaborating with Nazis 
if it wants to. If they don't mind, why should you, Arthur? Where 
does that leave your knee-jerk labelling of anyone who criticises 
them a hate-filled anti-Semite and a Nazi? What's the Holocaust got 
to do with it? Would my London landlords have done that? No way in 
the world. No real Jew would, except maybe a confused one.

I think such confused Jews are to be found mainly in two places, 
Israel and the US. In Israel there are more and more dissidents all 
the time, in all walks of life, adamantly opposed to the state's 
murderous, counter-productive, and in the end futile suppression of 
the Palestinians. Twenty years ago or so there was a strong 
pro-Israel bias in all the Western countries, in the media, in 
politics and just about everywhere else. That has changed radically, 
and now only in the US is that still the case. For instance, the 
Financial Times reported that a recent poll had found that 
anti-Semitism had fallen in Europe but hostility to Israel had grown. 
"The poll's findings could also undermine the argument, supported by 
some civil rights movements including the ADL itself and think-tanks 
in Israel and the US, that anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism."
http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullS 
tory&c=StoryFT&cid=1079420630825

An "argument supported by some civil rights movements" is not how it 
could be described in the US - a whole clutch of current reports show 
that everywhere that it matters, in the media, the professions, 
throughout politics, in the US anti-Zionism IS anti-Semitism. As we 
can see, right here this week.

After all, it's the US that the money comes from, the weaponry, the 
blind eye turned always where it's needed, the UN vetoes. It's there 
that the Israeli Zionists have made a truly Faustian pact with the 
so-called Christian Zionist nutters who now have such great influence 
there, at the top level, and see the State of Israel as essential to 
their own plans for a future Holocaust in the form of Armageddon. "We 
will always support Israel, no matter what." It's at the US that the 
full weight of the Zionist propaganda Rabbi Weiss talks of is aimed, 
with good effect, which is why the monstrous Sharon can boast that 
the US will do what he tells it to, and proves it.

Would my London landlords ever have condoned the ongoing daily 
crushing of the Palestinians, hiding the inhuman brutality of it 
behind the mindless mantra you and Matt and so many other American 
Jews trot out so facilely that "Israel as a Jewish state has the 
right to exist"? Again, no way, nor millions of other Jews like them.

Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism? I don't much care what some old book 
says about it. What happens on the ground is quite sufficient, and 
that says that being Jewish and Judaism is one thing, and Zionist 
Israel is another, a view shared by very many people I have reason to 
respect. True Judaism no more condones such actions as Irgun's Deir 
Yassin massacre, Sabra and Shatila, Jenin, and the countless other 
ongoing Israeli atrocities than true Islam condones mutilating dead 
mercenaries and hanging their corpses from bridges or flying 
airliners into civilian tower blocks.

This is Judaism? "In 1937, Winston Churchill said of the 
Palestinians, I quote, "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has 
the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for 
a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for 
instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of 
America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong 
has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a 
higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has 
come in and taken their place." That set the trend for the Israeli 
State's attitude towards the Palestinians. In 1969, Israeli Prime 
Minister Golda Meir said, "Palestinians do not exist." Her successor, 
Prime Minister Levi Eschol said, "What are Palestinians? When I came 
here (to Palestine), there were 250,000 non-Jews, mainly Arabs and 
Bedouins. It was a desert, more than underdeveloped. Nothing." Prime 
Minister Menachem Begin called Palestinians "two-legged beasts." 
Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir called them "grasshoppers" who could be 
crushed. This is the language of Heads of State, not the words of 
ordinary people." - Come September by Arundhati Roy (an excellent 
read!)
http://www.lannan.org/_authors/roy/transcript.htm

More and more American Jews are saying it's not Judaism: "In short, 
Zionism was based on a faulty, colonialist world view that the rights 
of the indigenous inhabitants didn't matter. The Arabs' opposition to 
Zionism wasn't based on anti-Semitism but rather on a totally 
reasonable fear of the dispossession of their people. One further 
point: being Jewish ourselves, the position we present here is 
critical of Zionism but is in no way anti-Semitic." (Jews for Justice 
in the Middle East) There are plenty of similar groups saying similar 
things.

This is how to treat the notion that criticism of Israel is 
anti-Semitic, with the Nazi-Hitler card and the Holocaust handy as 
moral clubs: IT'S BULLSHIT.

Israel is a rogue state, way out of control, bent on genocide and 
sowing the seeds of its own destruction with it - worse, it's a 
nuclear rogue state, with an estimated 200 warheads, run by maniacs 
in the most dangerous place in the world. Israel as a Jewish state 
has the right to exist? You'd better take it away from these thugs 
then, maybe it's not too late yet.

So go ahead, tell me I'm a hate-filled anti-Semitic Nazi who spreads 
hatred and kills more people than wars. I won't mind, I'll just laugh 
at you for a fool and take no further notice. And, at long, long 
last, get on with business. This thread is called "Oil and Israel", 
it started with a commentary at TomPaine.com:
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/oil_and_israel.php

"The two unmentionables about Iraq are suddenly getting mentioned. 
The real reasons for the attack on Iraq had nothing to do with WMDs, 
that ultimate red herring. The real reasons: oil and Israel."

One reason cited for it's being unmentionable: you get attacked and 
accused of being an anti-Semite.

Well, so what. So it prevents rational discussion on an essential 
aspect of oil politics - Israel's role - and thus of biofuels 
politics. In another thread, an American said this:

"I am confident about one thing!  When I go to the pump and fill up 
my car... I still  can't help but feel that I am funding a terrorist 
organization." So use biodiesel instead.  They're always saying it: 
"I simply don't want my driving habit to support Islamist terrorism."

That is a warped view of the good reasons for using biodiesel, it 
will simply help to cause yet more problems in the world, including 
the US. Yet millions of Americans think that. But, try to fill in the 
missing context to identify the real reasons for using biodiesel, and 
it runs into this nest of snakes of Zionism and criticising Israel.

Not any more it doesn't, not here anyway. By order. Signed: List 
owner. For which move there's rather wide support among the 
membership. This post will go into the archives, and in future 
anybody who makes that objection can be countered with one url and 
simply told to stop, no arguments, or else.

Keith Addison



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