my cc on Paypal.
http://www.paypalwarning.com/WallOfShame/Default.asp is only one such.They have a nasty reputation, but befrore I get the "but I have been usding them for..." let me just say, as Todd has," it isn't broke until it breaks".
Luc
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Miggins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Martin's Job


perhaps paying from a paypal account would be easier and quicker?

John Miggins
Harvest Solar & Wind Power
"renewable solutions to everyday needs"
www.harvest-energy.com
Phone/Fax 918-743-2299
Cell: 918-521-6223

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustl Steiner-Zehender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Biofuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:26 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Martin's Job


Hallo Friends,

I may be out of line here with this idea I have but here it is. Martin
Klingensmith has volunteered his time and effort to giving this list a
good  home. More than the time and effort I believe he is spending his
own money on the physical resources (hardware/software) needed to keep
this list alive and upgrade it.

If  each  of  us  who  appreciate his efforts would consider sending a
dollar or two or five (or the "foreign" equivalent) to him to help him
defray  his  costs  it  would  not only be a kind gesture but show our
appreciation  of  his  work in a way which would allow him to continue
with  his  fine work and make the list even better and more secure and
efficient.   Anyone  who  was  around  for the last attack on the list
knows what I mean about being secure.

I  am not sure how Martin would feel about this as I haven't spoken to
him  about  it.   My  feelings  on  the matter are that this list is a
little  home for a bunch of good people and that it serves the greater
good  of  us  all.   I  am  willing to act as the collection point and
receive  any  contributions  which  anyone would care to make and send
them  on  to Martin, with his and the lists permission.  Any donations
could  be  sent  to  Martin  in  care  of me at my address and I would
forward  them to him unless Martin does not mind giving his address to
the list and receiving them directly.

What  are  the  lists  thoughts  on  this  those of the list owner and
administrators and, of course, Martin?

Happy Happy,

Gustl
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Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns.
Mitglied-Team AMIGA
ICQ: 22211253-Gustli
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without signposts.
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da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewšhnlichen Welt nicht
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His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love.
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