Hi Bob,

I like the u´s and s´s for those uninitiated. But my question is at high
temperature, like that found near or in a diesel engine, will the u´s be
able to find those other u´s more easily and thus have a polymerization
reaction anyway?

Tom
 

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From: bob allen
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?


Howdy Kieth and Jan


At the risk of looking foolish as I am an organic chemist, but don't 
have much experience with polymer chemistry- here goes


Polymerization is a molecule molecule reaction.  A compound with double 
carbon carbon bond is particularly susceptible free radical oxidation. 
Let's call them U. Compounds without carbon carbon double bounds are 
relatively unreactive.  We will call these S.   Oxygen will activate one

molecule, U, but for polymerization to occur, the activated molecule 
must encounter another U, then the now covalently bonded pair, must 
encounter another U, and so on.  Collisions of activated U with S don't 
result in a reaction.


It seems to me that if you "dilute" U with S, that you will reduce 
polymerization.

Or how about this.  An activated molecule has only a finite amount of 
time to react.  If an activated molecule U "bumps into" another U then 
chain growth continues.  But if activated U bumps into S, no reaction 
occurs, other than U reacting internally, which also stops chain growth.


Polymer chemists can modulate the number of molecules in a chain (chain 
length) by addition of non polymerizing stuff.


Being a right brain guy, this discussion is made more difficult, as I 
can't draw all the pictures which exemplify the points I am trying to 
make.  :(


The long and short of it (no pun intended)  chain length of polymers 
will be reduced by dilution of biodiesel blended from high IV oils with 
low IV oils. Put another way, the time to reach a specified degree of 
polymerization will be extended by dilution.






Keith Addison wrote:
>> Hello Keith and thank you for your input. I agree with you, blending 
>> an oil
>> with a high IV with one with a lower, should produce an average IV.

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