as the price of 1l vs. price of 1 gal. goes.
But I'm not proposing cutting down virgin forest in Hawaii (very little
left) I'm talking about former sugarcane land along the Hamakua coast
of the Big Island that's been fallow for years and has slowly come into
use for diverse agriculture, (very little, actually). A lot of this land
has been used to plant Eucalyptus, and, in another 10 years all these
Eucalyptus trees will be cut down and shipped out to a foreign
destination to be made into woodproducts, and Hawaii will be stuck with
thousands of acres of treestumps and Eucalyptus leaf soil. Besides,
these trees were supposedly manipulated so they wouldn't bloom and
produce seed, but ...you guessed it, some of the trees are doing just
that. The rest of the land in that region is in use as pasture and if
you know Hawaii you will know that pasture land use is most
detrimental for native plants and animals. The Hamakua land will not be
native ecosystem ever again, unless the government wants it to be, and
they have always said they wanted that but have always leased the land
to the most destructive investors that have come along. So, after the
Eucalyptus is gone, what's the plan for that land...There isn't any as
far as I can tell.
When you come to Hawaii and you bulldoze land (join the club, seems like
everybody's doing that) -regardless of what grows on it, native or
nonnative- what will spring up first will be highly invasive nonnative
species, any native plants that even try to return will be hopelessly
crowded out. I have spent much time in Hawaii Volcanoes Nat'l Park with
the rangers working on eradication of nonnative gingers which are able
to overrun acres of land in no time. Keeping native ecosystem native
keeps many people busy here. New Zealand has a very similar situation, I
think.
That's roughly the picture here and the landgrab in Hawaii is a
political reality, always will be, and whoever has the most money will
be allowed to do with the land- whatever.
So, yes, I have briefly thought about the land I live on. Greetings, Stephan
Appal Energy wrote:
Stephan,
I think you have to honestly ask what agriculture and/or native flora
and fauna on the islands would be displaced by instituting palm
mono-culture for liquid fuel production.
A safe bet is that many Hawaiians feel that their limitted acreage
might be better served in ways other than usurping it for fuel
production.
This doesn't mean that farming for fuel has to be dropped as part of a
solution. But the degree/severity of that option is possibly
problematic due oddly enough to the unique environment - not that all
environments aren't unique.
Todd Swearingen
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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Gasoline Prices
Hello Robert, and all
Living in Hawaii, I wish gas was THAT cheap.. we are currently paying
almostt $3 per gallon for #2 diesel, and that's rising by the minute.
So...like the responsible guy I'm trying to be I wrote to all the
newspapers about oil palms (which would do well here), about 630 gal
of oil per acre per year.....what an opportunity for biodiesel, thus
making Hawaii at least partly independent from the Oil companies and
the shipping companies.
But you know what, nobody came to investigate further, no lawmaker
wants to go on the internet to see for themselves, it seems.
The only thing I am worried I'll accomplish is some lawmaker here
trying to make homebiodiesel making ILLEGAL (Have to have insurance,
environmental impact study, Hawaii with its ocean and reefs etc,
can't have people messing around with dangerous chemicals here.) In
Maui they are making BD but on the Big Island where they are
wondering what to do with the land of the former sugar plantations
and where they are complaining about the absence of an energy master
plan for the islands... no interest. 1 acre of oil palms = powering
1 small diesel car forever Period..(I guess that's why you called it
Journey To Forever)
There are a bunch of BD makers here and SVO users, but they are all
keeping a pretty low profile, and I'm beginning to see, why.
Well I'm hoping for a more upbeat message for next time, and maybe
some of the local guys could contact me to talk about where we are
heading. Greetings, Stephan (808 959 3528)
Hello everyone!
This morning, gasoline prices hit $1.00 per liter for regular.
I've never seen it higher than this. Premium fuel, which I have to
run in my truck, is generally 20 cents more per liter, so I DIDN'T
fill my tank this morning. . .
Oh, for ethanol!
robert luis rabello
"The Edge of Justice"
Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782>
Ranger Supercharger Project Page
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/
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