Hi Samai >Keith, >The sooner you write the better !
Okay, I'll try to do it soon. Thanks for the information. For one thing, I didn't know the guys burning coco and palm were using a heater on the fuel line, that makes a lot more sense to me. By the way, I'm not at all against the use of coco and palm, but the confusion is causing problems. At least with ester you're dealing with something that has been well studied and accepted in the industrialised countries, so there's a solid foundation to the argument and a sound basis for comparison. So I much agree with this: >I agree that the transesterification is the way >forward to quieten down all the objections and provide >a good platform for future development of the industry >here. Regards Keith Addison >the 'biodiesel' >movement here is in danger of misinformation. One >academic even suggested that the cost would be twice >that of petrodiesel (HSDO=14Baht/L crude palm oil = >11.50 Baht/litre, coconut oil = 11 B/litre ) I need >someone like you to come out and explain that >converting those oil into biodiesel(the ester) would >not increase the price by 100%! >Furthermore, there are still a lot of confusion about >veg. oil especially the medium chain C12:0 lauric acid >(coconut) and palm kernel (C14:0)that it will cause >catastrophic failures in engines ! The ambient temp. >here is very high, almost always much higher than 20 >deg.c. on most days and the engine room of a ferry is >as high as 40-50deg.C. I myself tried them on >agricultural engines(10-15PS at 1500 rpm) and ship >engines (2800 PS at 600 RPM and some of my friends are >using the coconut oil blended with kerosene (to lower >its dynamic viscosity by half) on their trucks for >more than 70,000 kms and they have been able to get >round the problem of oil dilution/ deposits/ >atomization etc. by adding a heating unit to the fuel >line. The ships also employ fuel oil heaters onboard >as they have been using fuel oil before. >I agree that the transesterification is the way >forward to quieten down all the objections and provide >a good platform for future development of the industry >here. >Samai >--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Thanks Camillo, > > >Well, there are lots of people who would not > > believe > > >that 'biodiesel'-the ester form of it- is viable > > >technically, economically nor from the > > environmental > > >side of it ! and they are not convinced that this > > is a > > >growing trend in the EU where environmental > > standards > > >and awareness are much higher than here. > > > > Hello Samai > > > > Who are these people? How would one best go about > > presenting them > > with some evidence? I was thinking of writing > > something for the > > Bangkok Post (I've written for them before), though > > I don't quite > > know when I could manage it. I see that even > > Greenpeace Thailand > > seems to think that a palm oil-petrodiesel mix is > > "biodiesel". > > > > Best wishes > > > > Keith Addison > > > > >I have the > > >experience of using both the veg.oil as well as the > > >COME/POME and have to take a stance opposite of > > those > > >people! A fleet of ferry is now operating on > > coconut > > >oil as a replacement for bunker oil ! just imagine > > the > > >soot reduction we gain there, and we have a few > > people > > >who make the ester from palm/coconut oils and have > > >been using them on pickup trucks and lorries. > > Still, > > >some would say that is still not adequate nor > > >credible. We will fight on despite those comments, > > and > > >so that we can make a good name for 'biodiesel'. > > >Perhaps you could explain further that both palm > > >oil/coconut oils are of medium chain length and > > that > > >the polymerization is much less severe than the > > >rapesol ? > > >Samai Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
