If you use it as a fuel additive there is no road tax. State Taxes tho. So as long as you blend it in the us your ok.
No restrictions on blend ratios in federal law. Eric >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com >To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Legal Obstacles for Biodiesel >Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 15:00:52 +0900 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [66.218.66.70] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBF0CD3C7000A4136E80942DA424687FB63; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:03:38 -0700 >Received: from [66.218.67.198] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jul >2002 06:03:24 -0000 >Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 28 Jul 2002 06:03:24 -0000 >Received: (qmail 43522 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2002 06:03:23 -0000 >Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; >28 Jul 2002 06:03:23 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO mail501.nifty.com) (202.248.37.209) by >mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2002 06:03:23 -0000 >Received: from [192.168.0.2]by mail501.nifty.com (8.12.4/3.7W-02/25/02) >with ESMTP id g6S62EE5000991for <biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com>; Sun, 28 Jul >2002 15:02:15 +0900 >From sentto-3381553-1371-1027836204-ericruttan Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:05:15 >-0700 >X-eGroups-Return: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-Apparently-To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com >X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Yahoo-Profile: doosjp >Mailing-List: list biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com; contact >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Delivered-To: mailing list biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hi Tom > >Thanks for clearing that up. One hears very little about road tax in >the US, one hears a very great deal about it in the UK. From what you >say about BD, the less one hears about it in the US the better, eh? >LOL! Shhhh! > >Big-time barters, well yes, different. Why do I suddenly find myself >thinking of Big Oil campaign contributions?? Small-time stuff should >go under the radar screen mostly, I think. Also it's almost >impossible to estimate the scale of the "problem", and without a >damage estimate it's unlikely anyone will take concerted action. > >I get the idea there are plenty of ways round this EPA hassle for >small-timers with a bit of imagination, and with the small-timer's >one huge advantage - local contact. > >Best > >Keith > > > >Hi Keith, > > > >I try to keep myself far from legal matters as possible, but here is my > >belief. Commerce is defined under federal codes as selling or bartering. >I > >don't have a reference to that, but it should not be hard to confirm. As >you > >imply, it is hard to document barter arrangements, but if something was >to go > >big scale, it could be a vulnerability for federal prosecution. > > > >Road tax is supposed to be paid on all fuel used for road transportation. > >This is the basis of the multi-thousand dollar fines some truckers have >paid > >when it was discovered that they were using un-taxed fuel in trucks. As >you > >know, the standard test for that is to put a few drops of fuel from a >suspect > >tank on a piece of blotter paper and look for the tell-tale red dye of > >untaxed fuel. But, surprise, no red dye in biodiesel, so the chances of > >getting caught are less. So far no one has reported this situation to my > >knowledge. And yes, tax is due on personal use fuel- quarterly on the >Excise > >Tax forms for federal road tax, and ususally monthly on state tax forms. >The > >postage alone will cost more than the tax payments for the personal user. > I > >paid over $700 last year in federal and state tax payments, but the EPA >says > >they will use that as evidence I'm violating 40CFR79 if I make more tax > >payments for other than personal use, so I've stopped for a while until >this > >gets sorted out. > > > >Tom Leue > > > >In a message dated 7/26/02 11:25:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >writes: > > > ><< Hello again Tom > > > > >In a message dated 7/22/02 10:11:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >writes: > > > > > ><< Hello Tom > > > ><snip> > > > > >The EPA says they will > > > >fine small producers up to $25,000 a day if they find your are >putting > > > >biodiesel fuel into "commerce", meaning selling it or bartering it. > > > > > >Bartering it? They actually specify that? > > > > > >---Yeah, its the legal definition of "commerce"--- > > > >Sorry, whose definition? The EPA's specifically, in this context? Or > >generally? Barter might be commerce, but it's virtually impossible to > >regulate it. Or even to prove it, if you're smart, seems to me. Two > >parties give each other gifts on a semi-regular basis. So? > > > >By the way, if you are selling it, who pays the road tax? Is there > >any road tax on fuel you make yourself for your own use in the US? > > > >Keith >> > > > >Biofuels at Journey to Forever >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >Biofuel at WebConX >http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm >List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: >http://archive.nnytech.net/ >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Your use of Yahoo! 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