Keely, well. That's where you go to get ripped off. Apart from that I think some of your figures may be wrong re the proportions of the mixes.
Re water in biodiesel, water emulsions, and ethanol-biodiesel blends, ethanol-biodiesel-water blends, all much discussed here and at the Biofuel list, I suggest an archives search. See this, for instance: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=835&list=BIOFUELS-BIZ http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=835&list=BIOFUELS-BIZ A lot of people have an instant overreaction when they hear stuff like this - water in the fuel! AAARGHH! Free water in petro-diesel is of course bad news; a fuel-water emulsion is a different matter, as also with water-biodiesel blends. If it's dissolved in the fuel it will harm nothing, and there seem to be big advantages. >"Following is a list of studies that are being considered for >inclusion in work being done by EPA to assess the effects of >water-fuel emulsions on emissions of oxides of nitrogen (NOx), >hydrocarbons (HC), and particulate matter (PM)." >http://www.epa.gov/otaq/models/analysis/emulsion/emulbibl.pdf See also the ACREVO study. http://www.nf-2000.org/secure/Fair/F484.htm Advanced Combustion Research for Energy from Vegetable Oils (ACREVO) Best Keith >Hi, > I was only back for a few hours tonight but it was a very productive >few hours. You see John Grill from the h2view list sent out some remarks >on Biodiesel and it just so happens I had been fooling with the idea of >producing a small scale biodiesel production unit a week ago. I went so >far as to research it a bit and found that you can even produce your own >vegetable oil with an oil press such as this one: >http://www.oilpress.com/type55.htm > But that is beside the point. Anyway, Jerry Decker on Keelynet posted >a piece on the gunnerman patent tonight. This involved mixing diesel >with water and a surfactant to produce a fuel for diesel engines. > This combination of posts triggered my memory and I remembered that I >was out to a refinery in Ohio last year where the company (Lubrizol) was >manufacturing a product called PuriNOx, a mixture of diesel, water and a >surfactant. They were running the resulting fuel/mixture as a fuel in >busses in Cleveland with good results. A production technician that I >talked to told me that the mix was 30% diesel, 70% water and the >surfactant. >http://www.lubrizol.com/PuriNOx/fueltechnology.htm > DING! There went the idea. Why not learn this technology and apply it >to BIODIESEL?!?! One gallon of biodiesel would become 3 gallons when >mixed with water by this process and this modification should >dramatically cut the per gallon cost to consumers and/or be quite >valuable to those who wish to produce biodiesel for their own use and >it would also then become considerably more environmentally friendly >than it already is in the process. >General biodiesel info: >http://www.afdc.nrel.gov/altfuel/bio_general.html#how >Home Brew Biodiesel Genset: >http://www.eline2000.com/eline/articles/biogen/biogenset.htm >Small Scale Biodiesel Production: >http://www.eline2000.com/eline/articles/biodiesel/biodiesel.htm >Making bar soap from glycerin (by-product of biodiesel production): >http://www.eline2000.com/eline/articles/barsoap/barsoap.htm >Regards, >MJ Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
