>>Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 23:30:09 -0000
>>From: "jeff_kerzner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: Biofuels hold key to future of British farming
>>
>>I was having a discussion last night with a leading scientist in
>>the renewable energy field about using oil-bearing crops to produce
>>bio-diesel, and a question he raised was "what size area would be
>>required to plant a sufficient amount of crops to offset the energy
>>required for the whole growing & production process?".  Could somebody
>>please comment on this.  Thanks and GO BIO-DIESEL!
>
>The answer: none.
>
>Keith Addison
>Journey to Forever
>Handmade Projects
>Osaka, Japan
>http://journeytoforever.org/
>

I guess the leading scientist wouldn't have thought much of that answer.

Ask him this: how much fossil-energy, in fuel, fertilizers and 
pesticides, would be required to produce enough food to feed 900 
million people?

Answer: none.

According to the FAO, no less. More than 15% of the world's food 
supply is produced by city farms (in 1993, expected to grow to 33% by 
2005), with virtually no inputs other than wastes (thus vastly 
decreasing city sanitation problems as well), and with the use of no 
farming land at all. Quite easy to apply such an approach to biofuels 
production. For one thing, only 10% of the WVO in the industrialized 
countries is collected, and it will stay at that level until there 
are such *local* initiatives. Large amounts of fuel ethanol can be 
produced by micro-operations from city wastes. Large amounts of 
biogas can be produced for heating and cooking from wastes, and the 
sludge used as fertilizer in the city farm.

That's just one such niche.

Britain and Europe are supposed to be moving towards sustainable 
agriculture. They'll try input substitution first - "organic" 
weedkillers, LOL! Substitution doesn't work too well anyway - high 
inputs, average to low outputs, lower externalizations. Less than 5% 
of the organic farmers in the US use any pesticides at all, of 
whatever origin, according to the USDA - they don't need them. 
Organics by management (rather than by substitution or by neglect) is 
low-input high-output.
http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=12561&list=BIOFUEL

It's integrated, and on any integrated farm it's possible to arrange 
a constant varying supply of by-products to produce biofuels and 
bioenergy sufficient to run the farm, plus. Even a half-baked 
organics by substitution farm that hasn't discovered grazing yet 
(buys in livestock feed) can achieve 40% energy self-sufficiency.
http://www.landinstitute.org/vnews/display.v/ART/2001/03/28/3accb0712? 
in_archive=1

Done properly using by-products and "wastes", how would you ascribe a 
land-use figure to it? You wouldn't be using any land at all, not 
exclusively.

Hence my answer: none.

More accurately perhaps, none and up.

I suppose the scientist wanted to calculate a national-scale program 
for fossil-fuel replacement. For one thing, rather more than mere 
replacement is required, it also needs large reductions in energy use 
and large improvements in energy efficiency, whatever the fuel 
source. Anyway, such centralized, top-down schemes also don't work 
very well, especially not when it comes to land use. Hence, perhaps, 
the sorry recent record of British agriculture, and, too, the huge 
waste and very high costs of the CAP, of commodity farming in the US 
of soy and maize etc, and the massive externalizations inherent in 
this approach. Jules Pretty at Essex conservatively calculates the 
true costs of British farming to be higher than it's income. Biofuels 
should be produced by more of the same?

Maybe it's this approach that sees the British government thundering 
expensively down the biomass-energy path, throwing away 
multi-millions on coppice gasification projects.

Think small, think local.

Best

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever


>>--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Martin Steele sent me this:
>> >
>> >
>> > á WESTERN MORNING NEWS ~ WEDNESDAY DECEMBER 4 2002
>> >
>> > Biofuels hold key to future of British farming


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