Hello again Joe
I you have any viable real world solutions lets hear it.
Excuse me while I put my jack boots on........
How about we hijack the mainstream media and start brainwashing
people with the notion that life is not about immediate
gratification. (Don't expect the sheeple of america to go searching
for the truth on the internet - no they need to be spoonfed)
But they do go searching for truth on the Internet. After Sept 11
2001 the big British media websites were swamped with US visits -
literally, in some cases, crash upgrades on servers. Not just
Britain, Indian and Pakistani newspapers too, many others. It didn't
die away.
That there is a cost involved in everything we do, every choice we
make, and that they need to consider that they might expect to live
with less so that others can live with something.
Do you know of the work of Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen?
http://cepa.newschool.edu/het/profiles/georgescu.htm
Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen, 1906-1994
There's some of his work here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30418.html
[biofuel] Energy and Economic Myths
Selections from "Energy and Economic Myths" by Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen
His inheritors are the ecological economists, such as Herman Daly,
Robert Costanza, Michael T. Klare, Joshua Farley and others.
More:
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg34131.html
[biofuel] From Here to Economy
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30417.html
[biofuel] How Much Is Nature Worth? For You, $33 Trillion
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg34130.html
[biofuel] At What Cost? - Costanza
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg34129.html
[biofuel] The Wealth of Nature
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg34207.html
Re: [biofuel] The Wealth of Nature
That's a good read.
That we collectively in the developed world are complicit in all the
death, suffering and destruction that takes place in this world, as
a result of turning a blind eye while supporting the the selfish
exploitive practices that bring all the above into existence in this
world. That they are voting with thier dollars and currently they
are voting for their own worst enemies and by doing so are creating
a sense of hatred in other places in the minds of terrorists ( or is
it freedom fighters I forget? )
Many share your confusion but many of them find the US forces' role
at least as confusing.
who are attacking them as a result. Once we have people convinced to
lower thier standard of living
I doubt it's even necessary - I think they have to change the style,
not the standard.
we can then mobilize them to kick the bastards out and enact a
worldwide system of referendum to decide how we proceed with issues
that need to be addressed. Here's a novel idea; we could even call
it the united nation or something stupid like that. Heck we could
spread some nukes around so that everyone at the table gets an equal
share of respect while we're at it. Yeah there's nothing like the
respect you get when you pull up your chair and lay your .45 down on
the discussion table beside you.
Just as long as everyone else has got one too, in which case you
might as well have left them all at the door. The mature, and most
effective, use of power is to refrain from using it. Apart from
that...
So how do you like me so far?
Jack boots off........flame suit on.
:-) Nothing much to argue about there, sorry to disappoint your flame suit.
Best wishes
Keith
Joe
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