Hello; You will get far more than 22mpg with diesel. Unless of course you are looking for very large capacity engine (like 6 litres) which and average city user does not need.
Over here (outside of USA) you can buy 2.5 to 3.5 litre diesel engined SUV's and Vans. You will get at least 25mpg. And these are 4x4 heavy duty machines. Or you can get small capacity diesel cars (example 1.6 litre Hyundai Getz) and you get something like 40 miles to a gallon easily. These are real life values including city traffic (not test values). I have looked at the article, it mentiones that in US the refineries do not have the capacity for the diesel production. Well hey maybe this is a great opportunity for bio-diesel.... Start using the vegetable oil or even better waste vegetable oil. You will save the environment, create jobs for local farmers and pollute far less. I would estimate that for a bio-diesel plant it will take maximum 6 months from scratch to be operational. And you can use the local farmers produce or local restaurants WVO (and save the pollution). Even better if you have the talent like many in this list you can make it at home, and save a bundle... Article also mentions that diesel prices are soaring. Yes this is true. I can tell you that this is a great tax revenue for all of the government. I can tell you that over here there are less taxes on biodiesel. The government actually supports the BD production. Therefore the BD sells for less than normal diesel. To save more please refer to the last sentence of the previous paragraph. There is one more issue about commercial transportation. We need to build more railroads. Trucking everything wil not be feasible. Again in Turkiye I believe we have the largest truck population in Europe. But at the end of the day no matter how many roads you build they are always congested and the accident rates are difficult to control. For commercial transportation you need to build railroads and develop the seaways. So there is a solution for all of the claims this article makes. It all comes down to the personal choice of each individual. Do we want to solve problems? Or do we prefer to enjoy the luxury of "wasting energy"? I gues our kids will be the one to appreciate our efforts or put the blame on us. regards Burak Istanbul, Turkiye -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Weaver Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 11:21 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes I read that. Diesel will only help if combined w/ high mileage cars, hybrid and bio. To go to diesel so Americans can get 22 mpg in their SUVs is pretty silly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Click here: Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes > <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/07/AR200508070 0888.html> > > > FYI. No mention of biodiesel to augment supplies. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
