hi yall,
 
all i ahve to say is at least the walmarts aren't unionized. ( doesn't make them better but ...   )  and that i agree with the going to a chemical shop. they will have what you need.
 
vince z

Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Don;

The comment about walmart, I knew would be humorous to some on the list but it was serious too.  There is much interest on this list about fighting globalization and avoiding giving any support to large multinational corporations.  Many folks I come across seem to think biodiesel is a license to go on with the same world view and attitude but just for cheaper and better for the air (as a side benefit almost).  I hope you didn't feel stung by my little joke, and welcome to the list BTW.
Try to find a local chemical supply house.  Look in the yellow pages under chemical.  Avoid things like drain cleaner which are not pure enough for the BD process.  You can find small quantities of lye intended for soap making which are pure but cost more than you should be paying.  Also avoid buying a huge bulk quantity which may seem the best economy, because you will need to use it before it absorbs moisture and degrades (gets kinda chalky white). Most commonly (around here) it looks like little spheres that are cut in half , white but not paper white,(that is old stuff) it is kind of translucent a little bit. Same goes for the alcohol.  It must be very pure and dry (no water content)  Some folks seem to be getting it from shops that cater to performance cars and drag racing.  I also found a supply in the phone book yellow pages.
Support small local shops if possible.  I know this is a bit of a goofy statement when it comes to chemicals that are manufactured far away most likely by a huge company who doesn't have the environment as the number one priority but walmart is just pure evil.

Joe

don lyon wrote:

Joe what I was looking for was a little help on how to make this bio-diesel fuel. I haven't looked at walmart for any additives to use. I am planning on looking at our local hardware store. I will be looking at the methonol alcohol and lye. I still don't know how to test any batch made. Also the used steak oil I picked up has oven cleaner mixed in it. Does that hurt anything? Thanks for your help Joe. God Bless, Donald




God Bless, Donald Lyon                     

From: Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] lye
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:38:49 -0400
>How can you be on this list and still be shopping at WALMART!!!
>Heaven help us.
>
>Joe
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> >first can I use red devil lye that is used for drain cleaner is it pure lye,
> >it is in granular form should i grind it? also is denatured alcohol what
> >you buy in wal-mart buy the quart ok to use for my test batches and
> >training?
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