They do, but, from my understanding, most of the low laying areas are rural.

I don't know of any hurricanes that have hit the Netherlands as well,
Louisiana has a ongoing history of them.

Greg H.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Manzo, Emil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:41
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Katrina slams New Orleans. Is There Blame?


> I think they live below sea-level in the Netherlands too? People have to
> live somewhere. We do the best we can with the tools we have. OK, back
> to finding energy....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TarynToo
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:12 PM
> To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Katrina slams New Orleans. Is There Blame?
>
> Hi, Juan and Greg
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Juan Gutierrez wrote:
>
> > People, were there first and form there own local governments before
> > the feds showed up.
> > besides aren't people ultimately responsible for themselves or do you
> > want the feds or corporate bigwigs telling you where you should live.
> > I live in South Florida also where is this High(ish) ground you speak
> > of its all swamps west of Miami.
> >
>
> And Greg wrote:
>
> > I'll disagree with one point, that the government was responsible for
> > all
> > the problems.
> >
> > I believe it's the folks of New Orleans, that started the canals and
> > drainage ditches ( and allowed the city exist to the point that it
> > became an
> > important enough port to cause congress to pass the various act's and
> > laws
> > that accelerated city's sinking to it's present level ), should carry
> > the
> > larger burden of guilt.
>
> I'm sorry if you thought I was speaking only of the feds. When I said
> governments did this or that, I was speaking of all levels of
> government, including the first settlers of Louisiana, who started
> public works to drain and protect the city.
>
> Once a family has lived in the same vulnerable place for a few
> generations, are the grandkids culpable for the parents mistakes? If a
> family moves to Louisiana because that's where they can make a decent
> living and try to improve their circumstances, they're trapped in
> Hobson's choice,
> <http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/archive/2003/12/23.html>,
> can we so blithely say "aren't people ultimately responsible for
> themselves?"
>
> Regarding high ground in SE Florida, The ridge line (such as it is)
> that the Florida East Coast Railroad runs along is generally the
> highest ground south of Orlando. I'm about a kilometer west of it,
> about 3 meters above sea level. The major factors that led me to this
> house were: high ground, sturdy construction, good shutters, and fairly
> good schools. (All Florida schools are sub-par, but these were better
> than most.) Our neighborhood seldom has standing water even in the
> heaviest rains, but only another km west of here, the drained swamp
> often floods.
>
> Bright Blessings on all, and especially to those facing a terrifying
> future in the gulf states,
>
> Taryn
> ornae.com
>
> P.S. Kim, Love your Sig. Just wanted to borrow it once.
>
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