I have no issue with those that TRIED to do something to help them selves and still got into trouble.
BUT I do have issues with those that did NOTHING ( despite all the warnings ) to help them selves then expect the government and everyone else to drop what their doing and save them, because they would rather buy a case of beer, than a bus ticket. I have major issues with adults that through their stupidity and ignorance killed their kids, like I said on another list: " My heart breaks, for the kids that had no choice because their parents were to stupid, to even try to get out of the way, and I curse those parents for risking their kids life. If I had a say in the matter, I would bring each and everyone of them up on charges of child endangerment.". I had a guy on that list try and tell me that they had no warning that the hurricane was going to be that bad, after I showed him the forecast and warnings posted by The National Hurricane Center. He then asked me how these people were supposed to get these warnings off the internet when the people had no power, then I showed him that the warnings that Katrina was going to grow stronger were posted Even As The Hurricane Was Leaving The Florida Coast It's one thing to break into a store to get food and water to survive after a disaster, after your supplies have run out, it's another thing entirely to, steal TV's, VCR's, DVD's, potato chips, soda and the like, because no one is around. I am on a budget, yet I still managed to put together three 55 gal plastic drums of water, and a few hundred pounds of wheat, beans, powdered milk, butter powder, white and brown sugar, honey, dry fruit, & vitamins. I have used salvaged building materials ( most of which didn't cost a thing ) to build a safe room. Greg H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 7:17 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Katrina slams New Orleans. Is There Blame? Howdy Greg, you seem a little hard on those who didn't evacuate. I can think a couple reasons to stay put. The evacuation went well for those with cars, as all roads were open to outgoing traffic. But what about those with our a car? What are they supposed to do, walk to Arkansas? So for those without vehicles or money to get on a bus, they walk to the superdome. Last I heard the roof leaks, toilets aren't working, gunshots have stopped the evacuation to the Astrodome. Meanwhile if you did walk, wade, or swim to the superdome, your home and all your possessions are left now to not only the elements, but also the looters. I am not sure what I would of done if in their situation, but I certainly have sympathy for their dilemma. Greg and April wrote: > They are culpable, if they continue their parents mistakes. Indeed they > should have a better grasp of just how bad things are. > > Last night on the news, they interviewed a family that elected to stay in > their home, even though the water was almost to the top of their front porch > and an evacuation had been declared. The family kept telling the reporter > to tell the officials to turn on the pumps. In that case my sympathy is > for the kids in that family that couldn't leave because the adults were > trying for a Darwin award. > > I have to wonder how many companies would move to New Orleans, if people > refused to move there. There are many places to work that don't have the > combined problems of below sea level living and hurricanes. Wamsutter WY > is paying oil riggers a starting salary of $50,000 a year ( and they want > more ), but, it doesn't have the party atmosphere that New Orleans does , > after all, the estimated population, in 2003, is less than 1000. > > Greg H. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "TarynToo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:12 > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Katrina slams New Orleans. Is There Blame? > > SNIP > > >>I'm sorry if you thought I was speaking only of the feds. When I said >>governments did this or that, I was speaking of all levels of >>government, including the first settlers of Louisiana, who started >>public works to drain and protect the city. >> >>Once a family has lived in the same vulnerable place for a few >>generations, are the grandkids culpable for the parents mistakes? If a >>family moves to Louisiana because that's where they can make a decent >>living and try to improve their circumstances, they're trapped in >>Hobson's choice, >><http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/archive/2003/12/23.html>, >>can we so blithely say "aren't people ultimately responsible for >>themselves?" >> >>Regarding high ground in SE Florida, The ridge line (such as it is) >>that the Florida East Coast Railroad runs along is generally the >>highest ground south of Orlando. I'm about a kilometer west of it, >>about 3 meters above sea level. The major factors that led me to this >>house were: high ground, sturdy construction, good shutters, and fairly >>good schools. (All Florida schools are sub-par, but these were better >>than most.) Our neighborhood seldom has standing water even in the >>heaviest rains, but only another km west of here, the drained swamp >>often floods. >> >>Bright Blessings on all, and especially to those facing a terrifying >>future in the gulf states, >> >>Taryn >>ornae.com >> >>P.S. Kim, Love your Sig. 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