Outside of my little nest here on the East Coast I feel like a stranger in my own land.  I go to the Midwest to visit family and I cannot and do not talk to them about politics..  I have come to realize, after 40 years, that they won't and probably can't change.  I prize family above rhetoric.  I have finally learned it is better, in some cases to be happy than to be right.  OTOH, I did not live thru what they did:  WWII, most of them have been working since they could walk, and did not have the benefits I have had.

My father left Arkansas in his teens, got a degree, was drafted and got a PhD.  He moved East and saw to it that his childred all went to college and grad school.  We have all travelled overseas and in some cases lived and/or worked in the 3rd world.  As Mark Twain said:  nothing is as deadly to prejudice as travel.

I have to agree with pretty much everything you say.  Except, we have no real foreign policy, nor do we really have an energy policy.  We have a bully policy.
No wonder 90% or the world is mad at us.  I don't blame them.

OTOH, the French are not without warts - look at West Africa.  I am also interested to see what happens with Western Europe with regards to their economies.
The Western European countries are belatedly realizing you can't just conjure an economy.  You have to have money before you can have generous social programs.  This what Germany and France are wrestling with now.  I personally think a realistic economic base - fewer regulations in some cases - in France it's pratically illegal to start a small business, and God help you if you fail - you can expect to investigated for fraud no matter what happened.  Complain about the USll you want but you can start a business w/o fear of gaol.  This one of the thing we do have to offer as a model for other countries.

This country has a ways to go in terms of social programs.  I still can't believe we don't have SOME form of national health.  The current system is collapsing.  My sister is a doctor and I can tell you the current program is failing.  I also believe that we need some form child care - if both parents must work there must be a safe place for their children.  Europe is miles ahead of us here.

I rattle on...

Mike

Hakan Falk wrote:
Mike,

Ugly is your addition and I love Americans, the only thing
that I do not like is their foreign policies, energy policies.
and the political/economy corruption by the US corporations.

By the way, I also like the French. My daughter in law and
grandchildren are French.

Hakan

At 23:21 14/10/2005, you wrote:
  
!! What about us ugly Americans?

Hakan Falk wrote:
    
I really like this list and its members, including the French
and Canadian French. LOL

It is fun with the sparks and the humor.

Hakan

At 20:52 14/10/2005, you wrote:

      
I generally take a shower once a month whether I need it or not.
(in the summer of course, in the winter we can take snow baths every day)

PS for all you foreigners..... underwear can be
recycled four times (inside out, back and front)
this is of course common sense to Canadians but
I am sensitive to the international nature of this list.

Joe

Frantz DESPREZ wrote:

        
Mike Weaver a écrit :



          
M. Falk:

As a person with (minor) French ancestry, I am shocked and offended at
your suggestion that the French do not bathe regularly.
I challenge you to defend yourself in a duel of honor.  Shampoo at
fifty yards, the first one to achieve a glossy sheen to be declared
the winner.
I name as my seconds Vidal Sasoon and the Breck girl.  If the first
duel is not satisfactory, we will rinse and repeat.

Prepare to meet your suds.

M. Weaver



            
M. Weaver,

I am very grateful of your sollicitude, but be careful, scandinavians
are famous for their weapons of mass desinfection.
They could invite you into a steam bath until you've been cooked, before
roll you in snow or dive in icy water.
None a civilized gentleman as you surely are can resist such a barbarian
treatment.
And since Volvo refused to married Renault, we are in bad t(h)erms.

M. Desprez
( with half of my ancestry from Normandy, so Hakan is maybe a cousin of
mine)

          






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