Ok, I was thinking that since alcohol had more H2 per molecule..... Greg H.
----- Original Message ----- From: "michael skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 21:07 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power > 1 liter of water = 1000g divide by molecular wt of water 18 gives 55.6 moles > of water x 2 for 111 moles of H > > 1 liter of ethanol = 789.3 g divide by molecular wt of 46.07 = 17.1 mole of > ethanol x 6 for 103 moles of H per liter. adding ethanol lowers # of H / > liter. > > 1 liter of methanol = 791.4 g divide by molecular wt of 32.04 = 24.7 moles > x4 for 98 moles of H > > so on a per volume basis you lower the H by adding alcohol. > > is you calculate the moles of H per gram is it 0.11/0.12/0.13 for > water/methanol/ethanol respectively > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Greg and April" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:41:33 -0700 > > The water may be more plentiful, but, it still takes up volume and mass. > > 1 gal of water weighs about 8.35 lbs. and takes up 231 cubic inches > > So 90 gal weighs over 750 lbs and takes up over 12 cubic ft. > > That's a lot, of extra weight and volume being taken up. > > I can't help but wonder if the water is being doped with alcohol - it would > increase the amount of H2 per unit of liquid, and IIRC, increases > conductivity of the water, not to mention decreasing the temperature of > freezing solid. > > > Can anyone confirm the effects of electricity through alcohol? > > Greg H. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zeke Yewdall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 16:31 > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power > > > > Hmmmm. Well, considering that they go through 100 gallons of diesel > > fuel in an 8 hour day, and water (even clean water) is way more > > plentiful than diesel), that actually doesn't seem that bad if it > > allows saving maybe 5% of the diesel fuel. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
