>On 13 Apr 2006, at 10:18, D. Mindock wrote: > >>A revolution is what we need here. Peaceful, of course. >> > >Well, that won't happen. > >Would somebody PLEASE get me my orbiting nuke platform? I need to >make some changes here. > >>I guess we need >> >>to >> >>ask: what would Martin Luther King Jr or Ghandi do? > >Who would Jesus bomb?
The moneylenders in the temple? >"Peaceful Protest" always had the promise of riots behind it. I don't think so. It's always a possibility, but with exceptions the protestors don't seek it, when they say it's a peaceful protest they usually mean it and try hard to prevent it becoming anything else. Violence is often deliberately provoked, often by plants in the crowd, or you just get attacked or shot anyway without any of the niceties. If there's such a promise it might not be the protestors who make it. >>Peace with justice, D. Mindock > >Did that ever really exist? 29. King Asoka. Wells, H.G. 1922. A Short History of the World http://www.bartleby.com/86/29.html 21. A Kingdom of Agricultural Art in Europe, "Reconstruction by Way of the Soil", G. T. Wrench, 1946 http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/Wrench_Recon/Wrench_Recon_21.html 22. An Historical Reconstruction, "Reconstruction by Way of the Soil", G. T. Wrench, 1946 http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/Wrench_Recon/Wrench_Recon_22.html There are others. Anyway, did peace with justice ever not exist? They exist all the time, maybe in most places most of the time. But you mean on the level of societies, nation states, empires, globally. There are good examples, and they may represent the human norm more than the score-tag of history might indicate - maybe it's what we naturally do if only we can solve the problem of power which has oppressed us for the last 10,000 years and more. We do often solve it, in our communities and beyond. Power is probably a problem of scale, beyond which human affairs cease to be strictly human. History is the tale of the powerful. We'll see about the future. The obstacles to peace and justice are easy to see, especially these days. It's not something to be sceptical about, it's something to insist on. Great kings is what it took. Now all it needs is the Internet. IMHO. Best Keith _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/