In the U.K. 2005, the Smart car was voted Britains worst handling car by motoring journalists from the "Top Gear" motoring TV programme. Apparently it goes round corners worse than any SUV or MPV, so if you get youirself one, make sure you slow down plenty for any corners. On the other hand, look out for the Smart Coupe, a tiny little two seater sports car that was voted one of the BEST handling cars on the road. Personally, I would rather ride a bicycle than drive either of them. Regards Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark manchester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 2:57 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was..was..smart car coming to US in 2008
>I hate to see these things on the highway, looks like people flying along > under an umbrella. Surely can speed along, this is pretty much a > four-wheel > hooded motorcycle. Incredibly cute, though, and comfy. Very popular here > in Toronto, but there's zero trunk space. > Jesse > >> From: Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 10:44:51 -0400 >> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was..was..smart car coming to US in 2008 >> >> I've been thinking that what I need would be a two seater with a fairly >> large storage space as I usually go downtown with servers and stuff. My >> Golf works ok with the seats down, but if the whole vehicle were >> designed for hauling small and medium loads a "Smart Car" design would >> be perfect. Now think of a diesel/electric hybrid... >> >> -Weaver >> >> AltEnergyNetwork wrote: >> >>> Haken, >>> >>> I've seen the 2 seater up really close, took a look inside, watched it >>> being >>> parked >>> in a miniscule spot, been behind one and in front of one in traffic, >>> haven't >>> driven one yet. >>> They are really cool little cars. I think it is going to fill an >>> important >>> niche market for >>> couriers, deliveries, fleets and businesses that like the fact that it >>> sips >>> thimbles of gasoline. >>> Still, in order to wean Americans off of their obsession with suvs, it >>> might >>> be a good idea if the company made a "heftier" 4 seater utility that >>> would >>> appeal to the suv crowd and still sip at the pump. Image is everything >>> and if >>> the average joe >>> thinks that they can get one of these green machines and still be able >>> to lug >>> around >>> the stuff that they do AND save at the pump, great. It's the old " >>> having >>> cake and eating it too" >>> syndrome but people respond to it, >>> >>> regards >>> tallex >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>> Smart Car Coming to US in 2008 Launch by DaimlerChrysler >>>>>>> >>>>>>> < http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1151818384.news >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> -------Original Message------- >>>> From: Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was..smart car coming to US in 2008 >>>> Sent: 02 Jul '06 08:22 >>>> >>>> >>>> Tallex, >>>> >>>> The market for 250 pound people is very much smaller in Europe than in >>>> US >>>> and >>>> I think that it is not a primary target for SMART cars. Do not only >>>> look at one, try >>>> it and you will be surprised on how spacious it is for 2 people and >>>> how well it >>>> transport/park for urban dwellers. I do however agree on the problems >>>> in US, >>>> it is little space for the oversized chip and snack packs, that seems >>>> to be the >>>> essentials for US commuters. >>>> >>>> I am not a small person 186 centimeter and 96 kilo (which is too much), >>>> but >>>> I >>>> fit well in a Smart. I did however not consider the image problem. >>>> >>>> Hakan >>>> >>>> At 09:15 02/07/2006, you wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's great Haken, so if they already have a four seater, >>>>> it is not to much of a stretch to do a minivan version as well and >>>>> still >>>>> be considered a smart car? >>>>> Also, I've seen the two seater and while really cool, there is no way >>>>> you are going to fit 2 - 250 pound people side by side, they would >>>>> look >>>>> like >>>>> circus clowns stuffed into the seats. >>>>> People want utility in their vehicles and still be as efficient as >>>>> possible. >>>>> >>>>> tallex >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Smart Car Coming to US in 2008 Launch by DaimlerChrysler >>>>>>> >>>>>>> < http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1151818384.news >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -------Original Message------- >>>>>> From: Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] smart car coming to US in 2008 >>>>>> Sent: 02 Jul '06 06:56 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> They do have a 4 seater model already, it is selling in Europe for >>>>>> quite a while. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hakan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> At 08:06 02/07/2006, you wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Great idea but I think that they better make a four seater for the >>>>>>> US market. Smart cars have been out for about a year in Canada and >>>>>>> while really cool, I have a hard time >>>>>>> imagining 2 average Americans in one ;) LOL, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> tallex >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Smart Car Coming to US in 2008 Launch by DaimlerChrysler >>>>>>> >>>>>>> < http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1151818384.news >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Get your daily alternative energy news >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alternate Energy Resource Network >>>>>>> 1000+ news sources-resources >>>>>>> updated daily >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.alternate-energy.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Next Generation Grid >>>>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tomorrow-energy >>>>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alternative Energy Politics >>>>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Biofuel mailing list >>>>>>> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>>>>> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>>>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives >>>>> (50,000 messages): >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Biofuel mailing list >>>>>> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>>>> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives >>>>> (50,000 messages): >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Biofuel mailing list >>>>> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>>> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>>>> >>>>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>>> >>>>> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >>>>> messages): >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Biofuel mailing list >>>> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>>> >>>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>> >>>> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >>>> messages): >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Biofuel mailing list >>> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>> >>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>> >>> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >>> messages): >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuel mailing list >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >> messages): >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
