Hi Zeke...with a population
that is exploding and with it the demand for limited resources doing same, how
can anyone not expect that we will not only continue in the direction of the
last 80 years, but accelerate in that direction? This thread has included
the statement "everything changes." It occurred to me, however, that
indeed it does change, but never disappears. Is there solace in this
thought? Obviously not for anyone who has identified totally with
"What a Wonderful World" this is, er, was. Ah well, just in case anyone is
still hanging on too dearly, you might check out http://bioresonant.com/news.htm.
This author says the earth is preparing to explode. Now won't that be
fun?!!! Mike DuPree
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:26
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Major Problems Of
Surviving Peak Oil
At 9,300 feet elevation, I have little to worry about with
regards to rising sea levels. But, the climate is already
getting pretty wacky. I was talking to someone who's lived there for
over 30 years, and he's seen the weather noticeably chance since
then. The treeline is moving both up from the bottom due to hotter
summers and drought, and down from the top due to colder winters, less snow to
protect the trees, and wind. Permanent snowfields that used to be
200 foot thick along the divide around the turn of the century are almost gone
now. We just got 22 inches of snow at my house wednesday night,
which is "normal" for around 1900 or so, but for the last 80 years or so, it's
been quite a bit less snow than the previous few hundred years.
Alot of our infrastructure was built in the period of less snow, so it doesn't
cope with the snow that well. If we actually get a "normal"
winter, it's going to be hard. But if we continue in the direction of
the last 80 years, water, both for cities, and for agriculture, is going to
get pretty scarce here in Colorado.
On 10/25/06, Bob
Molloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi
Terry, The
projected rise in sea levels is about five metres (just over 16 feet) in
the next 100 years. That gives us plenty of time to pick up our beach
umbrellas and move back a few feet. Over 90 per cent of our population
lives with a half-hour drive of the sea so the issue is one of great
interest here. In my case it will bring the nearest tidal
water (currently 300 yards away) to within a hundred yards of my front
lawn and maybe take out a few of my grape vines. It's a worry I tell
you. Regards, Bob.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry
Dyck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent:
Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Major Problems
Of Surviving Peak Oil
> Hi Bob, > > New Zealand
must be the perfect place to live. You have won awards
for > environmental projects and you are planting seeds to grow diesel
trees. > Congratulations. Those beaches you mentioned could
be in trouble, though, > when the sea rises. > > Terry
Dyck > > > >From: "Bob Molloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >
>To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Major Problems Of Surviving Peak Oil >
>Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:48:43 +1300 > > > >Jeez
Mike, >
> No,
definitely not New Zealand, we've limited our > >population to four
million and we only have an area just a little larger > >than the
British Isles. Besides we've got an anti-nuclear policy and live >
>under an ozone hole for much of the summer. Anyway we've got too
much water > >and forest and mountains and stuff, the South Pole
is just over the > >horizon, we've got all these beaches that
nobody uses, deer and horses and > >pig that run wild, eels in
every stream, fish coming out of our ears and > >sheep everywhere.
You'd hate it. > >Trust me, > >Bob. >
> ----- Original Message ----- > > From:
M&K DuPree > > To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:07 AM >
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Major Problems Of Surviving Peak Oil
> > > > > > See Stephen Leeb's The
Coming Economic Collapse: How You Can Thrive When > >Oil Costs
$200 a Barrel. Leeb would have us buying stocks in
various > >companies because that's his business. The
points he makes about why the > >price of oil must rise to levels
far beyond we know today are my reason for > >directing our
attention to the book. It really does come down to
a massive > >population growing exponentially and an economic
model promoted by the USA. > > Bottom line is, we're
screwed, at least as far as the world as we've > >known it run on
oil is concerned. Maybe all the JTF List could put our >
>money, talents, and lives together on some remote island or somewhere in
> >New Zealand and start something that might survive through the
coming chaos > >and become a beacon of hope to the
world. Use the JTF Credo as our basis > >for community
life. I'm serious! What, aint gonna
happen??? Ah well, to > >unquote something the bard
didn't say, all's not well that doesn't end > >well. Ah
well... Mike DuPree >
>
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