In California a "physician " can treat cancer with
  1.surgery
  2 chemotherapy
  3 radiation
   
  anything else is a felony.
  That is because the allopaths have outlawed non allopathic medicine.
   
  Kirk

Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Well Medicine has become very technical.  I don't think you can separate the 
two in the case of western medicine. The DIY factor is still there though in 
terms of alternative medicine....just trying to answer your question and seem 
hopeful at the same time;)
there's always hope!!

Joe

M&K DuPree wrote:
      No argument, Joe, so how does technical freedom enhance medical freedom?  
Technical freedom could easily mean the freedom to create genetically modified 
seed, food, people.  But then, same could be said for medical freedom.  Perhaps 
the whole business of "freedom" is a ruse.  Thanks, D, for leading us into this 
quagmire of despair and unrelenting bullshit...:P 
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  From: Joe Street 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time
  

Yes this is effectively what is happening, but on the other hand the techie 
types that turn the wheels in the high tech arena are also people with a 
personal life and there are plenty of them that don't just twiddle their thumbs 
at home.  This is why there is such a plethora of do it yerself information on 
the web.  We have been reading lately about plans to restrict, control, and 
censor the flow of information on the web and obviously it is to serve the 
denial of privelige you refer to but I believe it is impossible now.  The net 
has already taken on a life of it's own so it will morph as necessary to adapt 
to the situation and preserve the freedom it needs.

Joe

M&K DuPree wrote:
    DIV {   MARGIN: 0px  }              That's all well and good, Dawie, but, 
imo, your broadening the focus of the post averts attention from the point of 
the post that our medical freedom is under intense fire thereby harming the 
post by changing the subject.  I know this isn't your intent, but as they say, 
the road to hell is paved with good intentions.  How does technological freedom 
enhance our medical freedom?  Help us out here and show us how technological 
freedom enhances medical freedom.  Thanks.  Mike DuPree
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dawie Coetzee 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time
  

    I would broaden that to technological freedom. With apologies: Unless we 
put technological freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when 
manufacture will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art 
of making to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others: ... Isn't 
that exactly what has happened?   -D

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        Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come 
when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art 
of healing to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others: The 
Constitution of this Republic should make a special privilege for medical 
freedom as well as religious freedom. 
  - Dr. Benjamin Rush, signer of the Declaration of Independence
   
  I think what we have here in the USA is deadly medicine for all thanks to the 
FDA, the AMA, and
Big Pharma along with a very cooperative Congress. Medicine here seems to be 
for population
culling, profiteering, and control.   D. Mindock





  
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