Tom,
Thanks for the reply.
I'll pass on the info
Tom
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From: "Tom Thiel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators
> Regarding starting motors in our off-grid woodshop: we treat 1
> horsepower motors as intermittent-use, starting and stopping them at
> will. Larger motors are paired with a 1 horsepower motor to start each
> machine. After it is up to speed, the main motor is turned on. This
> system reduces the start-loading of the large motors almost down to
> full load amp rating, and its elapsed time to less than a second, since
> the rotor is already spinning.
>
> If he has an inverter / battery system, the battery bank will charge
> variably as (headroom) power is available, reducing the light-load wet
> stacking potential in the system.
>
> I await the SVO discussion with great interest.
>
> Tom Thiel
>
>
>
> On 6 Jan, 2008, at 8:52 PM, Zeke Yewdall wrote:
>
>> Seems to me like an engine running an 8 hour shift would be ideal for
>> SVO -- you'd have to start it on biodiesel till it got up to operating
>> temperature, then just make sure the incoming SVO is as hot as you can
>> get it -- 180F or higher. The schemes to just thin SVO with biodiesel
>> and ethanol seem pretty risky.
>>
>> One thing to think about is wet stacking the generator depending on
>> the loading of the shop -- many diesel generators cannot be run at
>> less than 20% of full load, and if the generator is sized for starting
>> large motors, it may not operate at this level consistently.
>>
>> Z
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2008 6:01 PM, Thomas Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>> On 9/25/06 Pagandai Pannirselvan wrote:
>>>> The small co generation of electrical energy based on the bio diesel
>>>> can >make possible the use of pure used vegetable oil and also
>>>> some e 5 >porcent hydrated ethanol , making possible to lower the
>>>> viscosity of used >vegetable oil in deiesel engine, removing
>>>> dependence with >Conventional deisel.
>>>> Thus the blend of used vegetable oil 70 percent, hyrated ethanol 10
>>>> >percent and biodeisel 20 porcent can be used with less problem
>>>> for >motor maintainence in rural areas.
>>>
>>> I've recently been contacted by a former student who would like
>>> to generate his own electricity for his woodworking business. He is
>>> considering a diesel generator and asked about biodiesel. I suggested
>>> he look into using a BD/WVO blend rather than processing it all into
>>> BD, as he would be using about 3 gallons (11.4 L) per hour (120+
>>> gal/week).
>>> 1. Does anyone have experience using a blend such as that
>>> suggested by Pagandai Pannirselvan in a diesel generator?
>>>
>>> 2. Hydrated ethanol: What % water would be tolerated?
>>> In the U.S. it is possible to get a permit to distill ethanol.
>>> Only that which leaves the premises must be denatured to prevent
>>> human consumption. 85-90% ethanol is do-able, and used on premises
>>> would not have to be denatured
>>>
>>> 3. Could E-85 be substituted for the hydrated ethanol?
>>> I've heard of commercial suppliers adding small amounts of gasoline
>>> to their diesel. Since the E-85 would only constitute 10% of the mix,
>>> the total gasoline would only be .15 X .10 = .0150 (1.5%)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
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