True, true But what are your alternatives? Nukes -kill people and animals Coal - kill all things that breathe or are sensitive to mercury - same as above it seems Wind - kills birds and noisy if close - bad but less bad than above. Solar - silicon foundries have a bad history. San Jose water table is contaminated with mutagens. Human powered treadmills - I can see a whole new prison industry. If we were able to mandate water treatment in silcon factories - maybe this is the solution? We have a problem. Kirk
Chandan Haldar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kirk, A google search on "wind power problem" will bring up many links. Specifically, large scale wind energy farms in Ireland and parts of UK have apparently created massive problems for bird life. Also the noise in high wind conditions is apparently unbearable for the neighborhood. This article is over 2 years old, but might be a start: http://www.geocities.com/nigbarnes/ The problem, as usual, is the scale. Beyond a certain scale, unexpected difficulties surface. Everything is connected. Chandan Kirk McLoren wrote: > http://www.stanford.edu/group/efmh/winds/global_winds.html > > by Cristina L. Archer (), and Mark Z. Jacobson () The paper summarizing the > results presented below was published in the Journal of Geophysical Research > - Atmospheres in 2005. A copy of the manuscript can be downloaded here (MS > Word, ~4 MB) or here (PDF, ~17 MB). > > Assuming that statistics generated from all stations analyzed here are > representative of the global distribution of winds, global wind power > generated at locations with mean annual wind speeds ¡Ý 6.9 m/s at 80 m is > found to be ~72 TW (~54,000 Mtoe) for the year 2000. Even if only ~20% of > this power could be captured, it could satisfy 100% of the world?s energy > demand for all purposes (6995-10177 Mtoe) and over seven times the world?s > electricity needs (1.6-1.8 TW). Several practical barriers need to be > overcome to fully realize this potential. _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080228/b792d4cc/attachment.html _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/